Ben Barba suspended indefinitely

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susan said:
ps I m biased having spent 2 weeks in hospital for severe head injuries after being bashed by 3 blokes on a bender outside a restaurant with my missus.

Wishing you a complete recovery, we need you on board for #9 :angel:

Barba seems to be of the Ben Cousins mould.
Loves the perks, hates the responsibility.
Not even his own children's financial security, offsets the appeal of the EBC (what a wank Group) :mad:
 
susan said:
I said in a previous post he seems like a good guy on the face of it. Having read about his past conquests and spoke to a couple of guys in the last couple of days I need to revaluate that and declare him an even bigger goose...xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx. Please!

If this was you or I we would be rightly pidgeon holed as a drunken aggressive dickhead looking for some violence to wash down the piss.

But no,we have a ""health"" problem for star footballers.It is only a matter of time before we get ADD or undiagnosed bi polar trotted out.Why cant people come to the obvious conclusion that there are decent people and there are d...ckheads with a predeliction towards violence.Good people/bad people.It aint hard.Violence on the street is getting worse by the day.Jail the f..ckers.

ps I m biased having spent 2 weeks in hospital for severe head injuries after being bashed by 3 blokes on a bender outside a restaurant with my missus.

Interesting,

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I wonder if they (Dogs) took this approach because they were concerned that the NRL might just rub him out of the game for a lengthy period (same as Lui).
 
Stevo said:
It's not against responsible conduct of gaming guidelines to borrow money from friends.

That probably depends what State you are in. It is a sign of a cumpolsive / problem gambler to try and borrow money to continue gambling and chase their loses. It is the venues responsibility to ensure all patrons gamble responsibily. People who gamble their money away then borrow money to continue are not gambling responsibly.
 
When the NRL has profited off alcohol and gambling promotion for so long, it can hardly take any high moral ground here - despite the best efforts of Greenberg and his media mates.
 
Remember the the Winfield Cup, Tooheys State of origin and now betting and micro-betting on game with the likes of Centrebet and other betting agencies sponsoring clubs including ours.

No wonder there's a culture of NRL players drinking and gambling their fortunes away.

BTW I'm not defending Barba either, there's plenty of blame to go round and some need to take responsibility for their actions instead of playing the victim.
 
You hit the nail on the head swoop. The lack of personal responsibility for your actions is the defining character of the new generation. There is a medical reason for every single action these days. There are those that suffer from genuine mental illness which must be a nightmare and then there is the majority represented by drunks and thugs who just love taking advantage our new found political correctness.Being a dickhead is not a health problem.
 
susan said:
If this was you or I we would be rightly pidgeon holed as a drunken aggressive dickhead looking for some violence to wash down the piss.

But no,we have a ""health"" problem for star footballers.It is only a matter of time before we get ADD or undiagnosed bi polar trotted out.
Firstly, sorry to hear that you were bashed by Fwits and I hope your recovered well.
Secondly, I agree with your sentiments here. It seems in some circles Barba's hero status has risen after behaving like a d**khead. Clever stuff by the doggies but this is certainly sending the wrong message. I know it's been said before but an up and comer would have shamed and booted.
Now it's perfectly set up for Barba's comeback game to be bigger than JC's.
 
Which can in turn make it too hard for him to return.

The bloke has taken a blow and is fragile mentally for now. It's quite the step from thinking you're bullet-proof to realising you may be perceived now as a bit of a powder puff.

A return will see him face a lot of lines of enquiries from the media and public hungry for news. He's a big deal now and a smile and a coke just won't cut it when he reappears.
 
It's interesting. Despite all the injustice and innuendo Brett Stewart went through, he never shirked his duties or behaved poorly. And frankly he would have every reason to play on the 'depression' tag.
 
Mark from Brisbane said:
susan said:
I said in a previous post he seems like a good guy on the face of it. Having read about his past conquests and spoke to a couple of guys in the last couple of days I need to revaluate that and declare him an even bigger goose ....XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX....Please!

If this was you or I we would be rightly pidgeon holed as a drunken aggressive dickhead looking for some violence to wash down the piss.

But no,we have a ""health"" problem for star footballers.It is only a matter of time before we get ADD or undiagnosed bi polar trotted out.Why cant people come to the obvious conclusion that there are decent people and there are d...ckheads with a predeliction towards violence.Good people/bad people.It aint hard.Violence on the street is getting worse by the day.Jail the f..ckers.

ps I m biased having spent 2 weeks in hospital for severe head injuries after being bashed by 3 blokes on a bender outside a restaurant with my missus.

Interesting,

..... XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX.....

I wonder if they (Dogs) took this approach because they were concerned that the NRL might just rub him out of the game for a lengthy period (same as Lui).

BINGO You've taken the prize Mark. From what I've heard that is exactly what has happened here. There's nothing noble or empathetic in what that slimebag Greenturd has pulled here. ......XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX.....
 
Isn't the NRL forwarding thinking impeccable.

Knowing they have a multitude of rugby league players who have gambling problems they decide to have the NRL launch at the Star Casino.

All those players surrounded by poker machines, gaming tables and alcohol. How many of them will linger around after the function is over?

I wonder who came up with that brilliant idea.
 
May have chosen it because SC offered it free of costs (plus benefits?). It seems to be how SC promotes itself. A mate was offered such a deal for a major promo and turned it down because the location with all its connotations was considered too sleazy. The NRL should have done the same.
 
I don't know about Barba's background and I don't really care. if he wants to get on the piss and gamble away all his money.....so what. However I do think there's much more to this than Greenberg let on. Far from handling it well, I think he's hoping like hell the whole story doesn't come out because if it does, he'll look like an idiot.

For a start, where was Hasler? Why hasn't he fronted the media to explain his role in how it all got to this point?

If this has been going on since before Xmas, what have they been doing about it? Or are they trying to make us believe they didn't know anything was wrong? Considering Barba is their star player, that's either completely incompetent or they did know and they've been covering it up for two months.

Or perhaps if they have known about it for two months and been trying to "manage" the delicate situation of their highest profile player going off the rails, what makes suspending him now their best option? What sort of possible sanction will he avoid by being on suspension? For example.... is he available for the same drug tests that his team mates are, or is he exempt?

Simple minded "journalists" such as Rothfield are easily taken in by Greenberg's "snake oil salesman" routine. If he was as good as he thinks he is, it would never have got to the point where he had to do anything else but tell the truth. Since the Grand Final loss, they've had the Mad Monday debacle and now this. They say these things happen in three's so, what's next for this so called "professionally run" club?

For what it's worth, I think Barba will be back inside a month. Whatever actual trouble he's in now, will have abated by then.
 
Defining domestic violence

There has been much debate regarding the most appropriate terminology to use for violence between spouses and partners. Objections have been raised to both ‘domestic violence’ and ‘family violence’ (the terms most often used), as well as use of terms such as ‘victims’ of domestic violence.[3] This background note generally uses use the term ‘domestic violence’ and refers to ‘victims’ of domestic violence as these are the most-commonly used and best understood of the alternatives. The broader term ‘family violence’ is used in relation to Indigenous people, as it is the preferred term in many Indigenous communities.

Domestic violence refers to acts of violence that occur between people who have, or have had, an intimate relationship in domestic settings.[4] These acts include physical, sexual, emotional and psychological abuse.[5] Defining forms of violence, its perpetrators and their victims, is complicated by the many different kinds of intimate and family relationships and living arrangements present in Australian communities.[6] Domestic violence is most commonly perpetrated by males against their female partners, but it also includes violence against men by their female partners and violence within same-sex relationships.

The traditional associations of domestic violence are with acts of physical violence within relationships occurring in the home but this understanding fails to grasp the complexity of the phenomenon. The National Council to Reduce Violence against Women and Children (NCRVWC) found that:

... a central element of domestic violence is that of an ongoing pattern of behaviour aimed at controlling one’s partner through fear (for example, by using violent or threatening behaviour) ... the violent behaviour is part of a range of tactics used by the perpetrator to exercise power and control ... and can be both criminal and non-criminal in nature.[7]

Domestic violence includes:
•emotional abuse—blaming the victim for all problems in the relationship, undermining the victim’s self-esteem and self-worth through comparisons with others, withdrawing interest and engagement and emotional blackmail
•verbal abuse—swearing and humiliation in private and public, focusing on intelligence, sexuality, body image or the victim’s capacity as a parent or spouse
•social abuse—systematic isolation from family and friends, instigating and controlling relocations to a place where the victim has no social circle or employment opportunities and preventing the victim from going out to meet people
•economic abuse—controlling all money, forbidding access to bank accounts, providing an inadequate ‘allowance’, preventing the victim seeking or holding employment and taking wages earned by the victim
•psychological abuse—making threats regarding custody of children, asserting the justice system will not believe or support the victim, destroying property, abusing pets and driving dangerously
•spiritual abuse—denial and/or misuse of religious beliefs or practices to force victims into subordinate roles and misusing religious or spiritual traditions to justify physical violence or other abuse
•physical abuse—direct assaults on the body, use of weapons (including objects), assault of children, locking the victim out of the house, sleep and food deprivation, and
•sexual abuse—any form of pressured/unwanted sex or sexual degradation, causing pain during sex, coercive sex without protection against pregnancy or sexually transmitted disease, making the victim perform sexual acts unwillingly and criticising or using degrading insults.[8]

Family violence is a broader term referring to violence between family members as well as violence between intimate partners. This term also covers a complexity of behaviours beyond that of direct physical violence. The Australian and New South Wales Law Reform Commission’s review of family violence law in Australia recommended that state and territory legislation ‘should provide that family violence is violent or threatening behaviour, or any other form of behaviour, that coerces or controls a family member or causes that family member to be fearful’.[9]


http://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliament/Parliamentary_Departments/Parliamentary_Library/pubs/BN/2011-2012/DVAustralia#_Toc309798373
 
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/cowboys-captain-johnathan-thurstons-plea-for-the-game-to-get-behind-troubled-bulldogs-ben-barba/story-e6frexnr-1226587190655
F'k this, where the f'k was Brett Stewart's group hug when he did nothing wrong but got hammered by everyone and then hung out to dry?

F'k i hate the Telegraph. I hate the NRL too for not being consistent. Hang that little Bulldog turd out to dry just like you did to Brett. Please excuse my f words, it was necessary to articulate how obtuse these dickheads are, the f'ker's
 
Why are we even talking about domestic violence?? The Bulldogs said it is not a matter for the police and Barba's mrs has come out and said he's never been violent towards her. The domestic violence issue has been assumed by people and all it is is uninformed garbage.
 
Agree stevo

The rumours are no different to the same ones we all hate about Brett
 

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