Cleanout for 2024

[TheSoaringEagle2023]

I noticed Jaemon Salmon is off contract, he would be an interesting prospect, although off the field you never know. Salmon would be able to fill the 5/8 , Halfback, Lock , 2nd Row and Hooker role if you needed him to.

 

[Eagles4Life]

I noticed Jaemon Salmon is off contract, he would be an interesting prospect, although off the field you never know.

Yeh nah. I think he would be more likely to go to the Raiders than us in 2024.

 

[KNUCKLES]

Yeh nah. I think he would be more likely to go to the Raiders than us in 2024.

Well if he moved to warringah he could be a weak gutted rat instead

 

[Disco]

Agreed - same as Vaega.

both of them shouldn't be near a fully fit first grade team.

Yep agree on that too.

I get it, with change there is hope for a quick turnaround.

But I'm not convinced either are the answer

 

[frank stokes]

Sweet FA in the winger department. Better off moving koula there and looking around for a centre. Montoya would have been a good pick up in my opinion. He recently extended though

I would be reluctant to move Koula to wing as I recall him making some pretty ordinary efforts under the high ball when we ran him at FB…

 

[frank stokes]

Yeh nah. I think he would be more likely to go to the Raiders than us in 2024.

…gold…

 

[KNUCKLES]

I would be reluctant to move Koula to wing as I recall him making some pretty ordinary efforts under the high ball when we ran him at FB…

Couldn't be worse than Tuipolotu. Who at this stage will be our first choice if Garrick remains in the centres

 

[frank stokes]

Couldn't be worse than Tuipolotu. Who at this stage will be our first choice if Garrick remains in the centres

Yeah I am not saying we need to be keeping our current wingers at all cost. - I just reckon that Koula is in his best spot at right centre…
His form is down this year though… had some highlights against phins but generally I have thought he went backwards from last year…

 

[NYEagle]

Now that we've finally put to bed any hopes for 2023 after that dogsht effort who should be punted for 2024.
My list

Tuipolutu
Saab
Harper
Parker
Johns
Arthur
Woods
Aloiai
Lawton
Boyle
Tuilagi
Roache

Go and find 12 players who deserve to be in a top 30 NRL squad because this current squad is bog average.

A perfect list for disposal.

Swap the lot for a half eaten bagel and let them be someone elses problem.

NYEagle

 

[NYEagle]

2023 is not over.

But agree with your list in that the off contract listed not be renewed and the contracted be offered the opportunity to look elsewhere.

Bar Saab, rough night last night but a player there

You look at the current top 8 and I think only Canberra don't deserve to be there.

We are grades behind the other 7 who for the most part, and unlike us, play with a decent level of commitment and will not fade away.

The tricky bit is we will have to play with some level of commitment to catch Canberra. Not sure if you can get a pulse out of this mob with a defibrillator.



NYEagle

 

[Eagle 1]

Always thought we should've signed Ray Stone couple years ago. Not highly skilled or talented just a hard working, mongrel type of worker. Something we've lacked since Thompson, Choc, Horo, Hall, Rodney, Gift.

Loved Rodney, a hard no nonsense type of player every team needs.

 

[manlyfan76]

Yeah I am not saying we need to be keeping our current wingers at all cost. - I just reckon that Koula is in his best spot at right centre…
His form is down this year though… had some highlights against phins but generally I have thought he went backwards from last year…

Has been much better outside the shoe

 

[Terry Zarsoff]

We need to stop going for these gang member wannabees. Our culture is lazy and dumb. Need more hard working red neck types in the side like Gilbert / Ray Stone

Well with Scotty F gone (that’s him on the left, Bretty on the right) gone, perhaps we will.

 

[globaleagle]

Well with Scotty F gone (that’s him on the left, Bretty on the right) gone, perhaps we will.
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cling and clang!

- Someone mentioned H R pufnstuf yesterday.

The Baader-Meinhof phenomenon in action!

edit: Sorry, back to whining everyone.

 

[Disco]

You look at the current top 8 and I think only Canberra don't deserve to be there.

We are grades behind the other 7 who for the most part, and unlike us, play with a decent level of commitment and will not fade away.

The tricky bit is we will have to play with some level of commitment to catch Canberra. Not sure if you can get a pulse out of this mob with a defibrillator.



NYEagle

Deserve is hugely subjective and always changing.

A club loses or wins 2-3 on the trot and the entire landscape changes.

Point is we are 1 point off 8th and 3 points off 4th.

Problem with us is our best games are borderline top 4 worthy and our worst fames are definitely spoon worthy.

If we can get more column A and less column B we can do.....but either way, at 1 point out of the 8 it is highly emotional for some to say the season is done.

 

[Simonmyers11]

It does seem to be our main issue @Kalvin I agree. Just posing a hypothetical here. Who would we replace these four players with? Just posing a hypothetical here.

Let's say Tim Sheens offered to buy DCE, Turbo, Jurbo and Schuster for 3.8m to solve the Tigers' issues. We might get 4m if we are lucky. Who are we going to replace them with, for that amount? What players of their quality or potential are available (uncontracted) right now anyway? What will we gain from ripping out the club's guts, heart, experience, and leadership by making that call?

Personally, I think the idea is nonsense, and we have no choice but to continue to build from within and develop our existing contracted players around that core group of four players.

Agree, its ridiculous people keep mentioned we are invested in 4 players so cannot afford any other decent players.

Most squads are heavily invested in 4 players up and around 1 million dollars. Its just that the other tops sides have players that can perform who are only on and around the 250-350k mark. But even then, the cap pressure (unless your the roosters) will eventually catch up (look at the Panthers).

Manly have only played a handful of games with their top 17 players and have scored over 30 points in each of those games. The team is very competitive when DCE, Jake, Tom on the field, the problem comes about when we cannot field our best side.

What we are really missing I feel is another decent prop and outside back (centre/winger). It's crazy we didn't make a play for Dom Young who will be heading to to Roosters next year. Its also
unfortunate we missed out on Flegler. Would love someone like Addin Fonua Blake back at Manly.

 

[Bearfax]

Agree, its ridiculous people keep mentioned we are invested in 4 players so cannot afford any other decent players.

Most squads are heavily invested in 4 players up and around 1 million dollars. Its just that the other tops sides have players that can perform who are only on and around the 250-350k mark. But even then, the cap pressure (unless your the roosters) will eventually catch up (look at the Panthers).

Manly have only played a handful of games with their top 17 players and have scored over 30 points in each of those games. The team is very competitive when DCE, Jake, Tom on the field, the problem comes about when we cannot field our best side.

What we are really missing I feel is another decent prop and outside back (centre/winger). It's crazy we didn't make a play for Dom Young who will be heading to to Roosters next year. Its also
unfortunate we missed out on Flegler. Would love someone like Addin Fonua Blake back at Manly.

Agreed. Also good to get Burbo back. He puts in. Maybe Zac Fulton in a while also. Need players who play it tough

 

[manlyfan76]

Would love someone like Addin Fonua Blake back at Manly.

I'll talk to the MC gangs and see if they still have a hit out on him.

 

[Tragic Eagle]

We were better off just promoting players from BWSE than signing these guys. At least there would be some money left over.

The problem is we go dive head first to sign whatever cheap player comes on the market. We don't make any patient astute signings.

Our recruitment in the last couple of years has been average to say the least. I hope it starts to improve soon.

 

[TheSoaringEagle2023]

I noticed Jaemon Salmon is off contract, he would be an interesting prospect, although off the field you never know.

Yeh nah. I think he would be more likely to go to the Raiders than us in 2024.