Manly in Crisis (a mega thread)

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#crisis ??

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Well feathered friend I’m not going to get into a battle with you about this because I know you have a good heart and are a genuine Manly fan.

NYEagle
I admire and respect your Manly Passion as well feathered friend

I am very disappointed at the way our players and Manly people were divided as well

and accountability at the club starts at the top

And Mr Penn is accountable for all this divisional mess that Manly people are still frustrated about

Great leaders unite their People
They do not divide them

Lift your Standards MR Penn and lead by example !!

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Mate if we start 2-8 next year you can add the 7 to that list. They reap what they sow….

Why are they coming out now “pardon the pun” to speak about how religion comes first and that Des had their backs AFTER he has been sacked along with half of the rest of the coaching squad. Obviously they did not have Des’ back or they would have spoken up before this. I think they call that disrespect.

If they start 2-8, wheel the lot of them out, and start with the spokesmen Schuster, Ola and Koula. GOODBYE.

They might be good players, but I am at the point now where I care less about winning than I do about having players who respect the jersey and the club.

NYEagle
Very well put @NYEagle. Those players have a LOT of catching up to do to repair the lost trust in their commitment to Manly. But also the club has the same trust it needs to restore to the supporters and members. There was no option but to clear the decks but now the new direction better yield results and quickly.
 
From what's the buzz

KRISTIE Fulton believes she has become the latest victim of the Manly Sea Eagles pride jersey fiasco – or that it was at least partly to blame for her sacking.

The daughter of rugby league immortal and club legend Bob Fulton was dismissed on Friday, four months after first raising her concerns at an internal meeting.

The Sunday Telegraph can reveal Fulton warned the club in June – a month before the rainbow jersey was launched – of potential opposition from the players.

A meeting took place on June 29 between representatives from jersey manufacturer Dynasty, Manly’s commercial and marketing staff, acting CEO Gary Wolman and Fulton.

At the meeting Fulton said words to the effect of, “The club needs to be careful about making political and social statements and we should look at this.”

As pathways boss at the Sea Eagles, Fulton had a close relationship with the Polynesian players, many of whom had joined the club under her watch as juniors.

She was aware of their religious beliefs.

When the story broke in late July that seven players were threatening to withdraw from the game against the Sydney Roosters, Fulton again urged the club to change the jersey.

To heat-seal pink over the rainbow colours for Women in League Round.

She said it would send a powerful message … that the club could own its mistake and, in future, work closer with players on future sensitive projects.

Chief executive Tony Mestrov has declined to comment on her departure.

He had not started at the club at the time of the pride jersey meetings.
 
The way we are as a club at the moment reminds me of when they first got rid of Tooves where there was a whole raft of changes with some new players in.

Unless there is a change from the ownership in a ongoing, long term fashion I fear that this will be nothing more than a sugar hit
 
The way we are as a club at the moment reminds me of when they first got rid of Tooves where there was a whole raft of changes with some new players in.

Unless there is a change from the ownership in a ongoing, long term fashion I fear that this will be nothing more than a sugar hit
Yes we could be here again in another 2-3 years, if recent history is any guide.
 

Sea Eagles rocked as power play turns ugly​

When Bob Fulton knew his days were numbered, he had conversations with some of his powerful media mates to make sure his kids would be looked after in his absence.

We are about to see his final wish enacted upon after the sacking of Fulton’s daughter, Kristie, from the Manly Sea Eagles.

It is easy to work out who will support her. Ray Hadley and Fulton were super close. Paul Kent is extremely close to all the Fultons, including Kristie, who was the club’s head of pathways until Friday and is considering legal action after her sacking.

Peter Peters was Fulton’s right-hand man and is godfather to his son, Scott. They will keep the Manly club on the hop – because there are power plays, and then there are power plays when you sack a Fulton.

It’s an all-in move by the Penn family and Tony Mestrov. The Des Hasler sacking was big, but this is next level. The chairman and new CEO are taking on the Fulton family – once the true holders of power at the Sea Eagles. Now they are taking on some people who don’t like being told what to do.

Anyone who has spent five minutes in the NRL knows the power “Bozo” had. Now he has gone, his daughter has been marched out of the club. She was given a letter upon her termination where claims of bullying were raised. Kristie denies the claims.

It should not have been a complete surprise to her. The way it has been explained to me, she was given a heads-up to change her ways a few months ago. It was a subtle message from Mestrov that was passed on to a third party.

The Penns never had a comfortable relationship with the Fultons. They will be targeted. But the man who has really gone out on a limb is Mestrov. He can expect to come under heavy bombardment from Fulton’s media allies.

What is hard to comprehend is the manner of the sacking. A shocked and tearful Fulton was escorted from her office in the grandstand named after her late father on Friday morning.

It was odd, as another departing Sea Eagles staff member, Don Singe, was in the gym at the time having apparently been given a choice on how he wanted to handle his departure. The veteran head of high performance announced he was moving on from his job last Monday, but had his children with him on Friday at the club’s centre of excellence, where he was working with young players, while Fulton was virtually frogmarched off the premises.

In her words to confidantes, she felt she was being treated like a thief. She was summoned to Mestrov’s office mid-morning and told her employment was terminated effective immediately.

Fulton has played a major part in the club’s successful pathways program along with her brothers Brett and Scott, who is the club’s recruitment manager. Kristie’s axing has shocked the family and they are contemplating starting legal proceedings as early as Monday for unfair dismissal – a path she went down successfully several years ago at the insistence of her father.

She says she would have simply walked away from her job if given the opportunity. We don’t know if she was afforded that chance.

In her role as head of pathways, Kristie had an excellent knowledge of the religious beliefs of the club’s Polynesian players, as most came through the junior pathways.

It is understood that, as a result, she was the only staff member to immediately raise concerns over the controversial inclusivity jersey when it was first shown to staff members on June 29, about 27 days before all hell broke loose when seven players stood down from the game against the Roosters at Brookvale.

Leadership role fits​

Josh Schuster became the first Sea Eagles player to speak publicly about the reason behind his decision to boycott the club’s pride jersey, and it is the first step on his path to becoming a team leader.

Yes, leadership is something I want,” Schuster said. “The players coming through now, I’ve been in the juniors with them ... we were in the SG Ball squad and now we are in first grade. Right now, my main aim is making up for last season to the senior players.”

He has overhauled every aspect of his fitness regime, from diet to sleep – and has dropped 12kg. He is also driving from Liverpool to the eastern suburbs to do sprint training with Roger Fabri.

PHOTOS

“I came back overweight last off season and was unmotivated,” he said. “I just want to prove a point and show what I’m all about. One of the main reasons I stepped out of the World Cup was to get my body right. Last year I didn’t really have a pre-season. I got injured straight away, got COVID [and] was playing catch-up during the season.”

Schuster is excited at the prospect of playing in the halves and is committed to Manly. But Des Hasler’s sacking has rattled him.

It shocked me a bit,” he said. “But Des has been staying in touch to make sure my training is all right. He has a deep care for his players. Throughout his whole coaching his main aspect was player welfare.”

Schuster broke his silence over the rainbow jersey affair on Thursday, admitting it was a “difficult period” but saying he has “no regrets” about his stance.

“I put my faith and personal beliefs first and what’s done is done,” he said. “The group is settled now. We are still close.”
 
I thought Scott Penn liked the Fultons. In 2015 he asked Bob to come back to the club as head of football. Penn set all of this structure up with the Fultons. I thought the power struggle was between the Hasler factions and the Fulton factions.
 
I thought Scott Penn liked the Fultons. In 2015 he asked Bob to come back to the club as head of football. Penn set all of this structure up with the Fultons. I thought the power struggle was between the Hasler factions and the Fulton factions.
Maybe he just liked Bob.
And I've always wondered how three siblings in a small organisation could ever offer anything other than a power block. It's gotta be unhealthy.
 
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"In her words to confidantes, she felt ..."

Kristie's exit leaves fewer people who can blab to the media. One of Weidlers last Manly scoops for a while, we hope.
 

Sea Eagles rocked as power play turns ugly​

When Bob Fulton knew his days were numbered, he had conversations with some of his powerful media mates to make sure his kids would be looked after in his absence.

We are about to see his final wish enacted upon after the sacking of Fulton’s daughter, Kristie, from the Manly Sea Eagles.

It is easy to work out who will support her. Ray Hadley and Fulton were super close. Paul Kent is extremely close to all the Fultons, including Kristie, who was the club’s head of pathways until Friday and is considering legal action after her sacking.

Peter Peters was Fulton’s right-hand man and is godfather to his son, Scott. They will keep the Manly club on the hop – because there are power plays, and then there are power plays when you sack a Fulton.

It’s an all-in move by the Penn family and Tony Mestrov. The Des Hasler sacking was big, but this is next level. The chairman and new CEO are taking on the Fulton family – once the true holders of power at the Sea Eagles. Now they are taking on some people who don’t like being told what to do.

Anyone who has spent five minutes in the NRL knows the power “Bozo” had. Now he has gone, his daughter has been marched out of the club. She was given a letter upon her termination where claims of bullying were raised. Kristie denies the claims.

It should not have been a complete surprise to her. The way it has been explained to me, she was given a heads-up to change her ways a few months ago. It was a subtle message from Mestrov that was passed on to a third party.

The Penns never had a comfortable relationship with the Fultons. They will be targeted. But the man who has really gone out on a limb is Mestrov. He can expect to come under heavy bombardment from Fulton’s media allies.

What is hard to comprehend is the manner of the sacking. A shocked and tearful Fulton was escorted from her office in the grandstand named after her late father on Friday morning.

It was odd, as another departing Sea Eagles staff member, Don Singe, was in the gym at the time having apparently been given a choice on how he wanted to handle his departure. The veteran head of high performance announced he was moving on from his job last Monday, but had his children with him on Friday at the club’s centre of excellence, where he was working with young players, while Fulton was virtually frogmarched off the premises.

In her words to confidantes, she felt she was being treated like a thief. She was summoned to Mestrov’s office mid-morning and told her employment was terminated effective immediately.

Fulton has played a major part in the club’s successful pathways program along with her brothers Brett and Scott, who is the club’s recruitment manager. Kristie’s axing has shocked the family and they are contemplating starting legal proceedings as early as Monday for unfair dismissal – a path she went down successfully several years ago at the insistence of her father.

She says she would have simply walked away from her job if given the opportunity. We don’t know if she was afforded that chance.

In her role as head of pathways, Kristie had an excellent knowledge of the religious beliefs of the club’s Polynesian players, as most came through the junior pathways.

It is understood that, as a result, she was the only staff member to immediately raise concerns over the controversial inclusivity jersey when it was first shown to staff members on June 29, about 27 days before all hell broke loose when seven players stood down from the game against the Roosters at Brookvale.

Leadership role fits​

Josh Schuster became the first Sea Eagles player to speak publicly about the reason behind his decision to boycott the club’s pride jersey, and it is the first step on his path to becoming a team leader.

Yes, leadership is something I want,” Schuster said. “The players coming through now, I’ve been in the juniors with them ... we were in the SG Ball squad and now we are in first grade. Right now, my main aim is making up for last season to the senior players.”

He has overhauled every aspect of his fitness regime, from diet to sleep – and has dropped 12kg. He is also driving from Liverpool to the eastern suburbs to do sprint training with Roger Fabri.

PHOTOS

“I came back overweight last off season and was unmotivated,” he said. “I just want to prove a point and show what I’m all about. One of the main reasons I stepped out of the World Cup was to get my body right. Last year I didn’t really have a pre-season. I got injured straight away, got COVID [and] was playing catch-up during the season.”

Schuster is excited at the prospect of playing in the halves and is committed to Manly. But Des Hasler’s sacking has rattled him.

It shocked me a bit,” he said. “But Des has been staying in touch to make sure my training is all right. He has a deep care for his players. Throughout his whole coaching his main aspect was player welfare.”

Schuster broke his silence over the rainbow jersey affair on Thursday, admitting it was a “difficult period” but saying he has “no regrets” about his stance.

“I put my faith and personal beliefs first and what’s done is done,” he said. “The group is settled now. We are still close.”
Suggestions of bullying from Kristie,that shocks me that a Fulton would be accused of bullying
 
Will be interesting if Hadley the most powerful of the Fulton allies in the media chooses to get involved. Whilst I am no fan he appears to promote a strong stance against bullying in the workplace even sacking one of his mates (blocker) over the famous get me a f coffee incident.
Mestrov would be a complete fool to have her marched out of the office for no reason he would also be a fool not to treat bullies ( if true) despite family names with a level of intolerance.
 
Will be interesting if Hadley the most powerful of the Fulton allies in the media chooses to get involved. Whilst I am no fan he appears to promote a strong stance against bullying in the workplace even sacking one of his mates (blocker) over the famous get me a f coffee incident.
Mestrov would be a complete fool to have her marched out of the office for no reason he would also be a fool not to treat bullies ( if true) despite family names with a level of intolerance.
Hadley himself has been accused of bullying in the past by a few people,ABC commentator Andrew Moore for one
 
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