Ron E. Gibbs
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Hard to disagree with any of that, Frogz. But I still think not hearing from Penn is better than hearing from him.
Manly in Crisis (a mega thread)
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DieHardManlyFan
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Keep the faith my feathered friends. For it may not be today or even tomorrow but mark my words that we will rise again 
and when we do I’ll be standing arm in arms with you singing the eagle rock 
and when we do I’ll be standing arm in arms with you singing the eagle rock
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Rafferty
Mug punter
I saw that moment, when Foz kicked for Parker, clueless and embarrassing on all fronts.
I have no issues with the 7 doing what they did, but with the marketing clowns behind the scenes who sprung the pride jersey on them. The whole thing could have been avoided if a few conversations had taken place. Half of them probably would have even worn the jersey if the club had respected them enough to consult them first.
Having said that, the 7 being at the club now does worry me because if they and the fans can't let bygones be bygones, the damage will be systemic and take years to heal. In the meantime some of our most promising youngsters will go to other clubs.
Meanwhile every other club who wasn't stupid enough to pull this sort of s#!t will benefit from this cluster #$@!. Just great.
Having said that, the 7 being at the club now does worry me because if they and the fans can't let bygones be bygones, the damage will be systemic and take years to heal. In the meantime some of our most promising youngsters will go to other clubs.
Meanwhile every other club who wasn't stupid enough to pull this sort of s#!t will benefit from this cluster #$@!. Just great.
and singing itwe will rise again
Thanks mate, but NO...we need to hear from someone more than Hasler and DCE....
I lost interest in rugby league a bit around the northern eagles debacle, but in 2005 my passion got reinvigorated. Thanks BK. Since then I've missed stuff all games. And if I have I've been spewing. Even in the years we've missed semis I'll still watch the games.
Today I just didn't. I'm so deflated by this season and when my Raiders mate texted me. I wasnt even angry. Just apothetic about it.
This just reminds me of the super league fall out era. I'm almost beyond caring.
Today I just didn't. I'm so deflated by this season and when my Raiders mate texted me. I wasnt even angry. Just apothetic about it.
This just reminds me of the super league fall out era. I'm almost beyond caring.
I couldn’t be bothered scrolling through all of this thread because it’s tiresome to me. I’ve been following Manly since Bob Fulton became my favourite player as a kid. So since the early 70s. And I’ve seen all of this before.
1979, the year after our magnificent gf win in 78, we missed the semis. Our best player, Grahame Eadie, was in woeful form, playing like he had plastic hands according to Rugby League Week at the time. The club was in disarray, players hated each other (apparently).
We failed again to make the finals in 1980 after signing Boyd, Dorahy and Brown. No spirit, gutless, was how we were described then.
We went on to make the semis in 81, and the GF in 82 and 83 but lost both unfortunately.
I’m not going to bore you with the various other seasons where we were a laughing stock including getting 60 put on us at least twice in the early 2000s. We know what happened after that.
The point is, this is a resilient club and it will bounce back. And I, as a supporter am showing the same resilience. I watched today to the bitter end, pointing out to my young bloke that while it’s disappointing, we stick solid. And if I am going to walk away when things get tough, than I would be embarrassed to show up when things inevitably turn around.
This is not to say that everything’s ok and things don’t need to change. But they will, and I’ll be here when that happens. Starting by watching the boys next week.
1979, the year after our magnificent gf win in 78, we missed the semis. Our best player, Grahame Eadie, was in woeful form, playing like he had plastic hands according to Rugby League Week at the time. The club was in disarray, players hated each other (apparently).
We failed again to make the finals in 1980 after signing Boyd, Dorahy and Brown. No spirit, gutless, was how we were described then.
We went on to make the semis in 81, and the GF in 82 and 83 but lost both unfortunately.
I’m not going to bore you with the various other seasons where we were a laughing stock including getting 60 put on us at least twice in the early 2000s. We know what happened after that.
The point is, this is a resilient club and it will bounce back. And I, as a supporter am showing the same resilience. I watched today to the bitter end, pointing out to my young bloke that while it’s disappointing, we stick solid. And if I am going to walk away when things get tough, than I would be embarrassed to show up when things inevitably turn around.
This is not to say that everything’s ok and things don’t need to change. But they will, and I’ll be here when that happens. Starting by watching the boys next week.
The players simply do not want to be there. Some of them don't appear to want to play for each other, or the club for that matter. The body language between some of them, says a lot more than the bull**** that DCE and Des are spinning in the pressers. The whole club, admin included, is just going through the motions until seasons end. The club has become an embarrassment to its fans, and a laughing stock to the rest of the NRL.
You should now change to Merchant of Hope Ryan
Ryan
Journey Man
Mate, don't quote me, but I think it was (at least in 2008), Des, Siebold and Arthur. No-one would mess with that group - they wouldn't dare protest a jersey.
Ryan
Journey Man
It's the Dogs mate. Hope isn't required. All we need to do is try a little, and we'll get the cookies.You should now change to Merchant of Hope Ryan
Des knows the headlines if we lose this one all off season (biggest ever losing streak) and he won't let that happen.
They'll care for that exact reason.
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Given it's unlikely Toovey will be back I do think Flanno would work well. He should be open to a side kick role as he has essentially been blacklisted at this stage. But also Des may be moved into a different role in the next few years (provided he gets the team back playing for eachother).
I think him and Des would be a great pair. Together they'd be more than capable of taking control over the playing group and re-shaping the team. I know he has broken the rules one too many times, but irrespective of the morality behind that it does speak to his competitive nature. We need to use whatever leverage we can to force ourselves back into shape for 23'. Just a few different characters around with different ideas and methods would be nice (combined with refining the roster of course..)
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Kelly Egan was with Des at the Dogs, then general manager at the Tigers and now recruitment manager at the Raiders.
I will tip the boys to win. I always do in every game (including todays). I will never win a tipping competition because of this illogical idiosyncracy. I will watch the match with an expectation of a Manly win. I think all of us go into every game with the hope of a win. That's inherent with being a welded on Manly supporter.
However, @Merchant Of Doom the likelihood of jagging a win against the Dogs is pretty low. We could probably overcome our lack of depth, and the number of players we have out. Unfortunately we possibly cannot overcome the fractured team dynamics, or the poor attitude and lack of commitment of some of our players to the team, and to themselves.
| Team | P | W | L | PD | Pts |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
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9 | 8 | 1 | 116 | 18 |
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9 | 7 | 2 | 72 | 16 |
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9 | 7 | 2 | 49 | 16 |
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11 | 7 | 4 | 59 | 14 |
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9 | 6 | 3 | 57 | 14 |
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10 | 6 | 4 | -10 | 14 |
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10 | 6 | 4 | 115 | 12 |
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10 | 5 | 5 | -56 | 12 |
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11 | 5 | 5 | 30 | 11 |
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10 | 4 | 6 | 15 | 10 |
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10 | 5 | 5 | -13 | 10 |
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10 | 4 | 6 | -18 | 8 |
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9 | 3 | 6 | -71 | 8 |
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10 | 3 | 6 | -9 | 7 |
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9 | 2 | 7 | -69 | 6 |
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9 | 2 | 7 | -87 | 6 |
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9 | 1 | 8 | -180 | 4 |
