Poll can you trust bloody humans?

[Brookie1973]

Interesting, Al!
There seems a widespread assumption and belief, going way back to ancient Greece, that it's only our civilisation that keeps a fragile rein on our true human nature,. Which busts out periodically to reveal our true colours.

In times of disaster panic and fear take over as we regress to the primitive instincts of apes, a war of all against all. People at heart are not good. This is even reflected in religious concepts such as original sin. And it’s why we need strong rules and strong leaders to keep us all safe.

Or… ???

Finally we can agree on something. Strong rules and strong rulers keep us all safe.

 

[BOZO]

Maybe I have I misunderstood you?
When you've often said everyone has their price, I took you to mean anyone will sell out their (club/mates/values??) if they are offered enough money?
Which would be putting self interest before others. Setting yourself up, or your own immediate family, at the expense of the wider community. Basically the more selfish 'planet B option?

Yes it was a misunderstanding as misunderstanding can be easily created when posting .
My perspective that everyone has a price means we all have our priorities , circumstances and needs in life but outside our needs we can still be generous to others

Manly of the $$$ Money people that prioritise wealth are some of greatest philanthropist

 

[SeaEagleRock8]

Manly of the $$$ Money people that prioritise wealth are some of greatest philanthropist

Possibly someone who shares what little they have would be a 'greater' philanthropist than someone like Bill Gates, who has certainly donated many billions for important causes to help people ... yet still keeps at least 100 billion for himself. .. which must be his 'priorities circumstances and needs in life'.

What prompted all this was more the question, are humans 'naturally' or even ruthlessly selfish (planet B), or are we on the contrary more willing to help others, even strangers, and even at times against our own interests (planet A)? apparently the vast majority of people believe B, not A.

Of course, this in no way an original thought - I started reading a book questioning the scientific evidence for B (but I haven't got far so don't know how it ends yet) (!) and realised I sometimes assume B. Yet when I think of the many 1000s of interactions I've had with people, I've only been attacked a handful of times but I've been helped numerous times. Go figure.

 

[SeaEagleRock8]

Finally we can agree on something. Strong rules and strong rulers keep us all safe.

Sorry to disappoint. We agree on some Sea Eagles stuff but not on that

 

[Brookie1973]

Sorry to disappoint. We agree on some Sea Eagles stuff but not on that

I must have missed something in the translation. I thought I was agreeing with you. Not disappointed, just confused.