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Good lord. Are you for real? You want us to dump Snake, Lyon and Matai all at once and you think we will improve? If so you are dumber than i thought.
Haha Matai is a turnstile, Lyon is bast his best, snake is missing key tackles I think we will improve yes
 
Haha Matai is a turnstile, Lyon is bast his best, snake is missing key tackles I think we will improve yes

If you think we will improve by getting rid of those 3 and replacing them with players from our current roster you seriously know nothing. Ask any good league judge the same and they will agree. I feel for Api. I wonder if he knows he has a deranged stalker :)
 
Good lord. Are you for real? You want us to dump Snake, Lyon and Matai all at once and you think we will improve? If so you are dumber than i thought.

Insult the the poster all you want, the fact of the matter is that we will be nowhere near a premiership with these three in the team. I think this is the point he was trying to make. I am not sure if he/she is actually the dumb one...
 
I have a feeling ,and said so before kick off, that this will be the last year for our " big 3".

Skivvy very sadly is starting to show the wear on his body.

Killer has stated, although not for a while, that he'd like to do a year at St Helens to finish, at 34 that's very probably next year.

Snake is the one who might go another year, but his reasoning to quit might be to have one year with Gifty in France.

It would be sad to lose them all in one year, and hard to replace to gun centres but it has to happen some time.
 
Look i know they are on the way out @Moops and i know we need to replace them eventually but i am saying we will not be a better side by dropping them all now and replacing them with what we currently have.
 
Regardless of form, which can improve at the flick of a pass, it's vital to have these three in our team. Right now we need a mix of old heads and young bucks and these three, in particular, carry the fabric that is Manly, that we want to continue through the ages. This is not the time for a quick fix.
 
We crossed there line 3 times & couldn't put the ball down,plus snakes possible try that was put down.We could have won comfortably at the end.Fix that 1st 20 minute focus & we'll be competitive.
 
... its not like good ball has been getting to the backs to allow decent attacking room ... at the moment we are better with at least two of them in the current team, if fit, we need snake at the back but we could be blooding another back so that when Matai or Lyon are injured we have a specialist centre ready to roll could be Lavaka, Ramien, Satini, Goodall or Walker with Api or Wright when he is fit into 5/8m .... just my thoughts
 
Matai missed a few tackles but his metres with the ball were amazing. Lyon to retired at end of this year, matai and snake and of 2017. Walker to centre and either api or keary to 5/8
 
Matai missed a few tackles but his metres with the ball were amazing. Lyon to retired at end of this year, matai and snake and of 2017. Walker to centre and either api or keary to 5/8


api or wright
 
This period has been character defining for this new team. Nothing like a bit of adversity and unfairness to gel a team together.

I like what I saw on Thursday night. They recovered from the worst start you could imagine to be very competitive and close to stealing that game.

I think its great that the coach is also not taking risks with injured players and that will benefit the team in the long term.

I always believed that 2016 was a building year and setting up a foundation for a real crack at things for 2017.

For them to make the finals is going to require 13 wins or so and that would be a good achievement for this team. I think we will see them really fly high after about round 15, Origin will be over and hopefully the new combinations will come together.

All I know is that what I have seen so far in 2016 is a breath of fresh air compared to the toxicity of 2014 and 2015.
 
Don't forget we have Liam Knight and Adam Fonua Blake waiting in the background and I believe they both have the potential to have a huge bearing of the quality of our forwards in the future.
Lots to be excited about.
 
Don't forget we have Liam Knight and Adam Fonua Blake waiting in the background and I believe they both have the potential to have a huge bearing of the quality of our forwards in the future.
Lots to be excited about.

They will. I am not too concerned about our forwards over the next couple of years but I am with our backs. I do not think we have any real quality there in reserves or coming through the ranks that will be ready in the next year or 2.
 
Don't forget we have Liam Knight and Adam Fonua Blake waiting in the background and I believe they both have the potential to have a huge bearing of the quality of our forwards in the future.
Lots to be excited about.

Yeah imagine our future pack...

8.
9.Parcell
10.Fonua-Blake
11.Knight
12.Taupau
13.Trbojevic

14.
15.Lussick
16.Walker
17.Vave

Possibly a big name forward signing this year we could be a big threat in 2017
 
They will. I am not too concerned about our forwards over the next couple of years but I am with our backs. I do not think we have any real quality there in reserves or coming through the ranks that will be ready in the next year or 2.

There is a couple of players-

Tom wright (5/8 centre)
Jesse Ramien (centre wing)
Nick Hynes (5/8 1/2back fullback)

But our outside backs are a concern nothing bozo can't fix
 

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