The real premiership window - 2027 onwards

[Rocky]

You can complain as much as you want about the coach, Waddell and whoever else.

And you are probably right.

But it all comes back to the contracts of Tom, Jake and DCE - $3.5m or thereabouts, and we are getting a broken Tom, a checked out 37yo Chery and a plodding Jake.

So basically, nothing out of our top 3 paid players.

Until all of these contracts roll off at the end of 2025 (checked out Cherry) and 2026 (busted Turbos), the math says we are just making up the numbers.

 

[eaglebuzz]

You can complain as much as you want about the coach, Waddell and whoever else.

And you are probably right.

But it all comes back to the contracts of Tom, Jake and DCE - $3.5m or thereabouts, and we are getting a broken Tom, a checked out 37yo Chery and a plodding Jake.

So basically, nothing out of our top 3 paid players.

Until all of these contracts roll off at the end of 2025 (checked out Cherry) and 2026 (busted Turbos), the math says we are just making up the numbers.

Yes that's the key thing that needs to change from a squad point of view. If we recruit wisely for next year, as long as Fogarty is decent, we can improve

 

[Hertera]

We need a new coach but the coach needs the balls to strip the club back. Tom,Jake sorry you can leave, Brooks find abother club. They are not going to win us a premiership again.

We need a big rebuild plenty of others we can "encourage" to leave also. This is going to be a slow fix there are no quick fixes I'm just not sure we have an owner who wants to win he is happy to own a mediocre team so I fear we are only going to get worse.

I think only a wooden spoon will shake him out of his apathy towards the club.

 

[bob dylan]

You can complain as much as you want about the coach, Waddell and whoever else.

And you are probably right.

But it all comes back to the contracts of Tom, Jake and DCE - $3.5m or thereabouts, and we are getting a broken Tom, a checked out 37yo Chery and a plodding Jake.

So basically, nothing out of our top 3 paid players.

Until all of these contracts roll off at the end of 2025 (checked out Cherry) and 2026 (busted Turbos), the math says we are just making up the numbers.

So the marquee players shouldnt get paid the most? Between them they have payed almost 60 Origin matches. Agree with you 100% that Manly seem to have derived zero benefit from having those 3 great players. But hat is the solution? Pay Garrick and Haumole then same or more than Tom and DCE?

Its not just Manly, its just they are the only ones we care about.

Latrell and Murray at Souths would have to be their highest paid. How are they going. Or Ponga at Drugcastle, Hunt when he was a Dragon.

I think we are alongside those clubs mentioned above with Parramatta, Titans, Tigers, Raiders and Sharks. There is no premiership on the horizon. Between those 8 clubs i'd safely say none will in a comp in the next 20 years. The Dogs are there too, they are heading for a massive crash if you ask me. I am not sure when the Panthers next one will be either now.

The comp is so even but there is only ever 2 or 3 winning hopes.

The lost loyalty of players because of greed has killed any pride in the jersey with almost every player. Lucky for us the Trbojevics are not in that category, they should have packed up and went to the Roosters 5 years ago if they had any sense.

I guess we just line up again next week and cheer our team on and hope the best.

 

[TheSoaringEagle2023]

You can complain as much as you want about the coach, Waddell and whoever else.

And you are probably right.

But it all comes back to the contracts of Tom, Jake and DCE - $3.5m or thereabouts, and we are getting a broken Tom, a checked out 37yo Chery and a plodding Jake.

So basically, nothing out of our top 3 paid players.

Until all of these contracts roll off at the end of 2025 (checked out Cherry) and 2026 (busted Turbos), the math says we are just making up the numbers.

Which makes sense to throw in a whole heap of youngsters with a view to the future. If the current premiership window is all but gone, why persist with Dads army, when it makes no difference to the status quo a few years down the track.

 

[Rocky]

So the marquee players shouldnt get paid the most? Between them they have payed almost 60 Origin matches. Agree with you 100% that Manly seem to have derived zero benefit from having those 3 great players. But hat is the solution? Pay Garrick and Haumole then same or more than Tom and DCE?

Its not just Manly, its just they are the only ones we care about.

Latrell and Murray at Souths would have to be their highest paid. How are they going. Or Ponga at Drugcastle, Hunt when he was a Dragon.

I think we are alongside those clubs mentioned above with Parramatta, Titans, Tigers, Raiders and Sharks. There is no premiership on the horizon. Between those 8 clubs i'd safely say none will in a comp in the next 20 years. The Dogs are there too, they are heading for a massive crash if you ask me. I am not sure when the Panthers next one will be either now.

The comp is so even but there is only ever 2 or 3 winning hopes.

The lost loyalty of players because of greed has killed any pride in the jersey with almost every player. Lucky for us the Trbojevics are not in that category, they should have packed up and went to the Roosters 5 years ago if they had any sense.

I guess we just line up again next week and cheer our team on and hope the best.

Yes the marquee players should get the most - it is just that ours are really contributing little these days.

 

[Cochrane]

So the marquee players shouldnt get paid the most? Between them they have payed almost 60 Origin matches. Agree with you 100% that Manly seem to have derived zero benefit from having those 3 great players. But hat is the solution? Pay Garrick and Haumole then same or more than Tom and DCE?

Its not just Manly, its just they are the only ones we care about.

Latrell and Murray at Souths would have to be their highest paid. How are they going. Or Ponga at Drugcastle, Hunt when he was a Dragon.

I think we are alongside those clubs mentioned above with Parramatta, Titans, Tigers, Raiders and Sharks. There is no premiership on the horizon. Between those 8 clubs i'd safely say none will in a comp in the next 20 years. The Dogs are there too, they are heading for a massive crash if you ask me. I am not sure when the Panthers next one will be either now.

The comp is so even but there is only ever 2 or 3 winning hopes.

The lost loyalty of players because of greed has killed any pride in the jersey with almost every player. Lucky for us the Trbojevics are not in that category, they should have packed up and went to the Roosters 5 years ago if they had any sense.

I guess we just line up again next week and cheer our team on and hope the best.

But if you don't have supposed marquee players, you don't just give top dollar to the next best in line .

Is that what you are saying?

 

[bob dylan]

But if you don't have supposed marquee players, you don't just give top dollar to the next best in line .

Is that what you are saying?

Not at all, that is what I asking the poster I replied too who said they were over paid.

Of course you pay top dollar for your marquee player.s As I said they have played almost 60 origins between them.

As another poster said without them we have have 3 spoons.

 

[DUFFMAN]

Talk of sacking our coach when there aren't many proven coaches available especially with two new teams coming in seems pointless.
If we are to replace him we need to act fast and spend way more then Penn is willing too.

DCE leaving frees up a decent amount of coin and Turbo next contract surely drops by 30% minimum with Jake also signing for less.

I don't see Hoopate staying with his dad only interested in shopping him around to the highest bidder.

I can't see when our next premiership window is if ever, we run on a budget that doesn't support a premiership while Penn is the owner.

 

[bob dylan]

Talk of sacking our coach when there aren't many proven coaches available especially with two new teams

Cleary is becoming more available every week.

The shine wears off quickly these days.

 

[DUFFMAN]

Cleary is becoming more available every week.

The shine wears off quickly these days.

He is ex Manly so would fit our we need an old boy as coach.
But Penn would never allow the club to spend the coin required.