Three players set to be targeted by ASADA over use of banned peptide CJC-1295

[Clint]

that's 5 of us >>>>> the rest of you!

Officially!

Count me in for the 'no' to PM's. as Kiwi said - more speculation, more ****e, same result - just a different sauce.........

 

[bones]

that's 5 of us >>>>> the rest of you!

Officially!

Count me in for the 'no' to PM's. as Kiwi said - more speculation, more ****e, same result - just a different sauce.........

Me too.

 

[swoop]

that's 5 of us >>>>> the rest of you!

Officially!

Does that mean I lose the true supporter status?

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Greens oppose extra powers for anti-doping investigators
Date March 14, 2013
Heath Aston
Political reporter

The government's bid to grant the national anti-doping authority star chamber powers – similar to those enjoyed by state corruption watchdogs – appears doomed, with the Greens joining the Coalition in refusing to support the proposed law.

Greens Senator Richard Di Natale has claimed rapists and murderers would have greater legal rights than athletes if the Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority Amendment Bill 2013 was passed by parliament.

Under the proposed changes, ASADA would be given the right to compel athletes to submit to interviews, with fines of up to $5100 for those who withhold information from investigators.

The burden of proof would be shifted to athletes to prove they had done nothing wrong.

Advertisement Senator Di Natale said: "We don't give the police the sort of powers that are being proposed here when they investigate ... a murder investigation or a rape investigation.

"It appears to be a knee-jerk response being rushed through the parliament next week on the back of the government's recent controversy when it announced with the Australian Crime Commission that it had significant concerns about doping in sport."

Senator Penny Wright, the Greens' spokeswoman on legal affairs, said the bill would "overturn some pretty fundamental legal principles" and was not supported by legal experts, including the Victorian Bar.

"Removing the privilege against self-incrimination, a basic right, isn't justified by the context here," she said. "The Bill reverses the fundamental principle of 'innocent until proven guilty' – we don't do this for criminal matters, so why do it for sport?"

Senator Bill Heffernan, a member of the committee that recently reviewed the ASADA Amendment, told Fairfax Media the opposition would not support the bill, which is due to be debated next week.

The Greens left the door open to supporting the bill if it was significantly watered down, but would not detail exact changes.

Sports Minister Kate Lundy said she would continue discussions with the Greens.

The bill is firmly opposed by the Australian Athletes' Alliance, representing 3000 athletes across the AFL, NRL, cricket, A-League, netball and basketball.



Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/greens-oppose-extra-powers-for-antidoping-investigators-20130314-2g2lt.html#ixzz2NUDxAXFe

 

[Captain Moondog]

ASADA is a joke. This smacks of a kangaroo court. Guilty until proven innocent is their modus operandi. Perhaps it's time the clubs that have been named looked to the legal avenues open to them. So far this whole affair has proven to be a smear campaign full of half truths and innuendo.

 

[Shoe1]

Some good quotes here from 12/3 and 13/3 - didn't make the tele or smh, but are direct from tooves and other players. (and Zorba)

http://www.sportal.com.au/league-news-display/treatment-of-menzies-disgusts-manly-225684

http://www.sportal.com.au/league-news-display/toovey-never-heard-of-horse-drug-225762

 

[Budgie]

I can't help myself .... PM please.

 

[The Who]

For once I agree with the Greens. However, they are as weak as water, so whether they stick to this stance is doubtful.

 

[Disco]

Yeah id love a pm

 

[Dee Why Eagle]

ok hit me with a PM please:-/

 

[Hamster Huey]

Greens oppose extra powers for anti-doping investigators
Date March 14, 2013
Heath Aston
Political reporter

The government's bid to grant the national anti-doping authority star chamber powers – similar to those enjoyed by state corruption watchdogs – appears doomed, with the Greens joining the Coalition in refusing to support the proposed law.

Greens Senator Richard Di Natale has claimed rapists and murderers would have greater legal rights than athletes if the Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority Amendment Bill 2013 was passed by parliament.

Under the proposed changes, ASADA would be given the right to compel athletes to submit to interviews, with fines of up to $5100 for those who withhold information from investigators.

The burden of proof would be shifted to athletes to prove they had done nothing wrong.

Advertisement Senator Di Natale said: "We don't give the police the sort of powers that are being proposed here when they investigate ... a murder investigation or a rape investigation.

"It appears to be a knee-jerk response being rushed through the parliament next week on the back of the government's recent controversy when it announced with the Australian Crime Commission that it had significant concerns about doping in sport."

Senator Penny Wright, the Greens' spokeswoman on legal affairs, said the bill would "overturn some pretty fundamental legal principles" and was not supported by legal experts, including the Victorian Bar.

"Removing the privilege against self-incrimination, a basic right, isn't justified by the context here," she said. "The Bill reverses the fundamental principle of 'innocent until proven guilty' – we don't do this for criminal matters, so why do it for sport?"

Senator Bill Heffernan, a member of the committee that recently reviewed the ASADA Amendment, told Fairfax Media the opposition would not support the bill, which is due to be debated next week.

The Greens left the door open to supporting the bill if it was significantly watered down, but would not detail exact changes.

Sports Minister Kate Lundy said she would continue discussions with the Greens.

The bill is firmly opposed by the Australian Athletes' Alliance, representing 3000 athletes across the AFL, NRL, cricket, A-League, netball and basketball.



Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/greens-oppose-extra-powers-for-antidoping-investigators-20130314-2g2lt.html#ixzz2NUDxAXFe

So the Greens are good for something...

 

[dowdz]

I can't help myself .... PM please.

Me too please

 

[mr seagles]

Pm me too please

 

[Jatz Crackers]

Jatz Crackers not for PM.

 

[Manly1973]

ok,

Ive cracked can you please PM me

 

[mrsperko]

ok,

Ive cracked can you please PM me

All right I give up!

Cant have everyone else in the ring and not be in on the latest fad! PM me too pretty please

 

[WESTIE]

Anyone care to forward the PM please ?/

 

[Orko]

Me too please. Just want this thing over with so we can get back to the footy, it's driving me up the wall :/

 

[Clint]

Personally - I reckon within 10 minutes of getting said PM, you'll wish you didn't know.

 

[The Royal Soup]

the 3 names I got told I dont believe

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the 3 names I got told I dont believe

I mean i think its just speculation

 

[madeinplateau]

Me to pleaseee