Trump

[Brookie1973]

The long march….

 

[lsz]

Are we honestly using Dinesh to “prove” points.

Really?

 

[lsz]

Trump vetoing the rubbish palestine state hahahaaaaa thank you Mr. PRESIDENT!

Get rid of the UN ! Free Israel 🇮🇱

A question.

What are we freeing Israel from

 

[Ohgeez]

I think the Democrat party are fairly centrist (certainly would fall into the category of centre or centre-right here in Australia and we're not extreme in any real way). Bernie Sanders and Mamdani sometimes mention ideas of social democracy; so I suppose they are the closest to 'radical'. Yet I also believe this is largely a result of perception.)

Wow I’ve seen some rubbish on here but this takes the cake. The reason democrats lost the election is because they were terrified to even answer a simple questions like what is a woman or should trans people be allowed to compete against women in sport. Too worried about what the woke left would say instead of the majority. Look at Gavin Newsom who clearly has aspirations of becoming president views change in the last 12 months.

One of the most effective campaign ads of all time was the Kamala is for ‘they them’ Trump is for ‘you’ shown in all swing states. The ad directly moved 2-3% of undecided voters in battleground states to vote Trump winning him the election. The democrats were seen as out of touch with reality not centrist

 

[Ohgeez]

For all you people scared Jimmy Kimmel was canceled because of Trump you can rest easy. Disney have put out a statement saying he is back Tuesday & was briefly suspended for what they seen as ill-timed & insensitive comments. Who would have thought… 🙃

 

[Brookie1973]

Are we honestly using Dinesh to “prove” points.

Really?

It’s already a given that no conservative commentator has any validity, so you probably don’t need to make the point every time.

 

[Brookie1973]

For all you people scared Jimmy Kimmel was canceled because of Trump you can rest easy. Disney have put out a statement saying he is back Tuesday & was briefly suspended for what they seen as ill-timed & insensitive comments. Who would have thought… 🙃

But I thought it was something to do with Trump putting pressure on the FCC (?) to help his “billionaire cronies” with some merger thing?

 

[Brookie1973]

Wow I’ve seen some rubbish on here but this takes the cake. The reason democrats lost the election is because they were terrified to even answer a simple questions like what is a woman or should trans people be allowed to compete against women in sport. Too worried about what the woke left would say instead of the majority. Look at Gavin Newsom who clearly has aspirations of becoming president views change in the last 12 months.

One of the most affective campaign ads of all time was the Kamala is for ‘they them’ Trump is for ‘you’ shown in all swing states. The ad directly moved 2-3% of undecided voters in battleground states to vote Trump winning him the election. The democrats were seen as out of touch with reality not centrist

It’s a deliberate strategy to claim a centrist position, making their ever increasing craziness more acceptable while painting conservatives as far right Nazis.

 

[Eagle 1]

I just have two follow-ups here and am holding off any judgement

i) who makes up the ‘radical left’ of the party?
ii) what is your reasoning behind them being radical? (can you also clarify a bit on what you mean by radical in this context?)

Traditionally, ‘radical left’ refers to people who want to make a radical change to the system of governance (eg. for left-wing; private ownership to public ownership / transferring economic control to the people over the state). The way it is being used lately (at least the way i have been reading it) is more in line with the way people describe radical extremist groups (or suicide bombers, terrorist hijackers, mass shooters at places of religious worship, etc). Is it more the former or latter for you and when did you start feeling that way?

I think the Democrat party are fairly centrist (certainly would fall into the category of centre or centre-right here in Australia and we're not extreme in any real way). Bernie Sanders and Mamdani sometimes mention ideas of social democracy; so I suppose they are the closest to 'radical'. Yet I also believe this is largely a result of perception. I've watched a bit of Bernie's youtube content of late and its worth a look (he's been going to some Republican towns). He's been consistently warning against Oligarchy for decades, yet has been let down by the Democrats and villanised at times by the Republicans. In my view w.r.t Oligarchy, they have now arrived there.

The furthest extent of these w.r.t 'radical' is really just funding systems such as healthcare by taxing wealthy people a larger rate. When you think about it it's no more than a mild form of the NRL salary cap (although I doubt they'd enforce any sort of hard cap per se.).

Context is pretty key imo as the US are the richest country in the world yet have a major, growing wealth divide (median - i.e. middle - household income is just $78,538 USD). Simultaneously, Elon Musk aspires to soon be a trillionaire . I think their democracy is threatened more by ignoring the wealth divide, growing consolidation of corporate ownership and the continued corporatisation of politics (enabling political sponsorships and donations; stemming back to the 80s). Some interesting info / stats:

"Harvard PhD student Spencer Yongwook Kwon, Chicago Booth’s Yueran Ma, and Leibniz Institute for Financial Research’s Kaspar Zimmermann find that the trend has been in place for a century. They calculate that since the 1930s, the share of the US economy dominated by the top 1 percent of companies (when sorted by assets) has increased to 90 percent, up from 70 percent. Meanwhile, the asset share of the top 0.1 percent of companies has risen to 88 percent, up from 47 percent."​

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Also, "In the first quarter of 2025, almost two-thirds percent of the total wealth in the United States was owned by the top 10 percent of earners. In comparison, the lowest 50 percent of earners only owned 2.5 percent of the total wealth."​

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And the percent share of net worth by the top 0.1% has increased from 8.8% (percent aggregate) in 2003 to 14% in 2025 (60% increase).​

There are no moderate spokespeople in the Democrats anymore that was in the Clinton years. They now look to people like AOC and the way out Crocket to do there bidding. Even James Carville, long time Democrat strategist said, if you support the Democrats don't vote for a moderate, it's a wasted vote. To beat Trump we have to be the total opposite to him, not, I kinda like what he's doing right now for the country. If beating Trump means putting people like AOC and the squad up for the Presidency, then, so be it.