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Supreme Leader

Uber L77T playa
Seriously, did you guys watch the game? You blame Trent - for what? we loose 2 players in first 30 mins for the game? Oh, we play with 15 players for 50 mins. The refs were cruel? seriously does anyone think that DCE played for the ball to knock on? I counted 5 forward passes that Knights did, at least one try that should not have been awarded.

Is this anything to do with the coach? No!

The only issue here was the refs, it was a croc of sh*t they dished up. We had 4 players run more metres than the best opposition player, we did more tackles than the opposition. Seriously it was a way better effort than last 3 weeks.

The best team did not win and it ain't the coaches fault. If you differ then turn up at Narrabeen and take your chances.

Hey Ralphie what's your problem - you disagree - on what? hey let' s blame the coach -he's responsible for everything! you are a gibberer!
 

double hoops

First Grader
There is actually a lot to like about Barrett. The only negative. But it's a big one. A coach has to be willing to eat humble pie. You punish players because you want improvement. You try one thing but if it dosent work you need to learn from it. Not be insane. His own ego is getting in the way of good decision making.

No doubt he has pressures and there is more to his decisions then meets the eye. But some things just obviously need to happen. And haven't.
 

Supreme Leader

Uber L77T playa
If I could give you 20 X disagrees I would. You need to Stop making excuses for trivial points and embrace the cataclysmic moment that Manly has lost its ****!

Yes, I agree the previous 3 weeks were shockers, but not tonight from a team performance. In our house we have the swear jar. Last 3 weeks nothing was contributed because we were cr*p. It was our own fault. Tonight I had to donate $18 at 50c a go! There in lies the difference. Even my 9 year daughter said that tonight wasn't cool.
 

The Royal Soup

First Grader
What a joke of a press conference

Barrett said:

- he was happy with the effort

- please how courageous the players were

- made jokes about team selections

- had no answers

- refused to talk about Hastings


Is he for real??? What a ****ing muppet, it’s also no time to make jokes after floggings week after week

Sack this ****ing myth ASAP!!!
 

1969

Bencher
I have to give it to you strone33, you have been consistent from day dot, and Barrett is proving you right. Can I ask you, who would you replace him with that is available?
 
S

Shnorky

Guest
Seriously, did you guys watch the game? You blame Trent - for what? we loose 2 players in first 30 mins for the game? Oh, we play with 15 players for 50 mins. The refs were cruel? seriously does anyone think that DCE played for the ball to knock on? I counted 5 forward passes that Knights did, at least one try that should not have been awarded.

Is this anything to do with the coach? No!

The only issue here was the refs, it was a croc of sh*t they dished up. We had 4 players run more metres than the best opposition player, we did more tackles than the opposition. Seriously it was a way better effort than last 3 weeks.

The best team did not win and it ain't the coaches fault. If you differ then turn up at Narrabeen and take your chances.
Why then are we doing 5 hit ups then a s...t kick on the last, why is the ball turned in nearly every play, why haven't our wingers, even centers seen any ball ( unless coming in for a hit up), why is our backline so flat? This is now our game plan, and even on the last set they couldn't think outside that square.
I've never bagged barrett, but now I can see where the performances are coming from.
 

MadMarcus

Toovey for NRL CEO
Penn should come out and admit he was wrong about Tooves and beg him to come back. Despite all the drama of 2015, Manly finished 9th that year. At the time I thought it was a pretty good effort considering all the trouble with Des’ backended deals, DCE/Foz contract sagas and key injuries. Penn deemed it unacceptable. 9th is something we can only dream of now.

https://www.seaeagles.com.au/news/2015/07/29/decision-made-with-heavy-heart-penn/

Decision made with 'heavy heart': Penn

Author
Wayne Cousins
Timestamp
Mon 9 Oct 2017, 04:32 AM

Manly Warringah Sea Eagles Chairman Scott Penn says the decision to terminate Geoff Toovey’s coaching contract at the end of this season was one made with a ‘heavy heart’.

Although contracted as Head Coach for 2016, the club has decided to honour Toovey’s contract in full until the end of next season in recognition of his legacy to the Sea Eagles for almost three decades.

Penn said it was a difficult decision but one made in the best interest of the club’s future.

“Geoff is a legend of the club, a life member and one of our longest serving players. It is obviously an emotional time for our fans and for our players,’’ Penn said.

“As a club, we are a results driven business. We live and die by our results on the field. 2015 has not been a season we are used to. The thought of potentially missing the finals after Ten years of consecutive Final appearances is not a place we want to be as a Club.

“This year we have been conscious of making decisions based on our results. Ten weeks ago, we were on the bottom of the ladder, both of our halves were leaving, and we didn’t have a lot of hope for the future.

“I had a frank conversation with Geoff in March to say we are going to be watching results closely this year. We don’t want to make any rash decisions but if the team is not performing as we want to, you and I are going to have to have a tough conversation. Unfortunately, we have had that tough conversation.”

Penn said the club had undertaken an exhaustive process to make sure the right processes were in place for 2016 and beyond, to ensure the Club were once again Premiership contenders.

He said the board decided to give Geoff time to hopefully turn the team’s performance around without making a ‘rash decision’ 10-12 weeks ago.

“There have been a lot of changes behind the scenes. We bought in some advisors to help with that process and what that has done has given us hope for the future,’’ Penn said.

“We have signed a number of marquee players for next year and we have a lot of hope around the club. The fact is we didn’t believe we had the best coaching structure in place at that point of time and we have decided to make some significant changes for 2016.”
 

HoldenV8

Journey Man
I think Barrett might not have any choice but to pick Hastings no matter what.

Croker is gone and there is no way DCE is going to escape being charged for eye gouging. And just remember he has those 70 carry over points from whatever it was he escaped suspension for about 3 or 4 weeks ago.

Yet I still get the feeling that he won't select him. And if he doesn't, to me it shows that he's willing to sacrifice our season and the fact that we have NEVER got the wooden spoon all for his own damn pride.

I'll keep supporting Manly, that won't change. But I have lost faith in Trent Barrett as a coach.
 

Sillybus

Reserve Grader
Penn should come out and admit he was wrong about Tooves and beg him to come back. Despite all the drama of 2015, Manly finished 9th that year. At the time I thought it was a pretty good effort considering all the trouble with Des’ backended deals, DCE/Foz contract sagas and key injuries. Penn deemed it unacceptable. 9th is something we can only dream of now.

https://www.seaeagles.com.au/news/2015/07/29/decision-made-with-heavy-heart-penn/

Decision made with 'heavy heart': Penn

Author
Wayne Cousins
Timestamp
Mon 9 Oct 2017, 04:32 AM

Manly Warringah Sea Eagles Chairman Scott Penn says the decision to terminate Geoff Toovey’s coaching contract at the end of this season was one made with a ‘heavy heart’.

Although contracted as Head Coach for 2016, the club has decided to honour Toovey’s contract in full until the end of next season in recognition of his legacy to the Sea Eagles for almost three decades.

Penn said it was a difficult decision but one made in the best interest of the club’s future.

“Geoff is a legend of the club, a life member and one of our longest serving players. It is obviously an emotional time for our fans and for our players,’’ Penn said.

“As a club, we are a results driven business. We live and die by our results on the field. 2015 has not been a season we are used to. The thought of potentially missing the finals after Ten years of consecutive Final appearances is not a place we want to be as a Club.

“This year we have been conscious of making decisions based on our results. Ten weeks ago, we were on the bottom of the ladder, both of our halves were leaving, and we didn’t have a lot of hope for the future.

“I had a frank conversation with Geoff in March to say we are going to be watching results closely this year. We don’t want to make any rash decisions but if the team is not performing as we want to, you and I are going to have to have a tough conversation. Unfortunately, we have had that tough conversation.”

Penn said the club had undertaken an exhaustive process to make sure the right processes were in place for 2016 and beyond, to ensure the Club were once again Premiership contenders.

He said the board decided to give Geoff time to hopefully turn the team’s performance around without making a ‘rash decision’ 10-12 weeks ago.

“There have been a lot of changes behind the scenes. We bought in some advisors to help with that process and what that has done has given us hope for the future,’’ Penn said.

“We have signed a number of marquee players for next year and we have a lot of hope around the club. The fact is we didn’t believe we had the best coaching structure in place at that point of time and we have decided to make some significant changes for 2016.”

This makes me want to cry and laugh hysterically at the same time
 

HoldenV8

Journey Man
Privately I think Phil Gould is sitting back in his office at Penrith laughing his fat arse off at all this.

If he rated Barrett so highly as a coach, why did he immediately remove him as Panther's U/20s coach after just one year? If he rated him that highly why was he actively looking to get Barrett out of Penrith and jumped at the chance to sing his praises to Bozo when it became known that Tooves was on borrowed time? And you can bet that those inside the game like Gould knew Tooves was on his way out well before the public did.

Of course whenever he gets his head on television (every week), he'll continue to praise Barrett as the next super coach. If he's so damn good why didn't Gus want him near Penrith any more?
 

bringbackbeaver

Reserve Grader
Has to give Hastings a crack at 6. Just has to. What about Metcalf? Too young? I think Frankenstein will need to come back in too (I am not a fan but we are super thin, it seems).
As for Baz... Bring back Des. Get Cliffy to be his assistant and start rebuilding that Manly toughness we were known for from 2005-14...
 

winnyason

Bencher
He wont go this season given injury toll we now have croker, siro, tanginoa all acl plus jorge longterm and now goewoski at least 4 weeks i say parker also.
I dont think he hard enough but until he gets a go with full cap he not getting proper chance. Last season he had million wiped off cap with snake/matai and then could not sign any players into this season bar thompson. They need to cop the penalty and start signing talent for 2019.
This season should be used to blood young talent that includes suli, tom wright and fainu.
I don 't think he right man for job but he not really had a good shot at it. Off next year cap there no myles, brown, lussick, jono wright and i can not see us signing kelly.
 
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sheridanstand78

First Grader
Barrett looks a beaten man at the moment. He is flogging a dead horse and being forced to play has-beens due to the injury decimation we are seeing and the restraints of the cap and our top 30, I really wish he would be allowed to promote some youth to give the team a boost of enthusiasm. What I saw last night is a team so low in confidence and a lack of belief!!
 

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