Well may we LOL .. but at whom.

Winning and losing are pointless stats? News to me. Maybe Yoda as been on the happy gas @Woodsie ? Haha

Aren’t you arguing that wins are pointless when they aren’t against teams you consider good enough ?

“We haven’t beaten a top 4 side for years”

When we beat Parramatta early last year they were running 3rd, and still top 4 when we beat them late in the year I think. If we didn’t beat them, they would have been top 4, not us, and the stat is irrelevant

“We haven’t beaten a top 8 side all year”

Newcastle were in the top 8 when we beat them
 
Means nothing. Teams 3 to 16 are all at a level playing field. Sharks, Parra, Roosters, and Souths are just as **** as the rest. We could have and should have beaten Sharks and Souths easily.
 
Yes, at this stage Penrith will go undefeated this year until they lose a game.
At this point it is actually believable that they could... they have played poorly a couple of times so far yet still looked a class above...
The drizzle are obviously very good too but the Riff have lost 5 out of their last 61 games which is absolutely nuts when you consider origin and injuries...
 
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Aren’t you arguing that wins are pointless when they aren’t against teams you consider good enough ?

“We haven’t beaten a top 4 side for years”

When we beat Parramatta early last year they were running 3rd, and still top 4 when we beat them late in the year I think. If we didn’t beat them, they would have been top 4, not us, and the stat is irrelevant

“We haven’t beaten a top 8 side all year”

Newcastle were in the top 8 when we beat them

I think when anyone talks about beating a top whatever team, they base it of where they finish to end the season (or project to finish in the season).

Example, as it stands right now: You could probably use Penrith / Melbourne, but the other two are up in the air, but out of Cronulla, South Sydney, and Chooks maybe ?
 
I think when anyone talks about beating a top whatever team, they base it of where they finish to end the season (or project to finish in the season).

Example, as it stands right now: You could probably use Penrith / Melbourne, but the other two are up in the air, but out of Cronulla, South Sydney, and Chooks maybe ?

You’re right mate, the last 2 spots probably dependent on injury, I’d see it as a shootout between Eels, Sharks, Roosters and us for those spots, don’t think South’s have it this year
 
Those St George sides of the 50s and 60s were supposedly the bees knees but I just checked and it turns out they went 11 full years without once defeating the reigning premiers, pfft.
 

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