Brett Stewart

[Terry Zarsoff]

Do you think he would say that given his relationship with Brett Stewart if he was still to be playing?

Yes.

Stewart 'played' (sort of) this year and look what happened? Finished in the bottom four.

They actually started to look a better team when he was forced to stop with the inimitable 'Kieran Foran mid-2014/mid-2015' impressions mid 2016.

 

[EaglesDontTweet]

This insurance seems like 100% scam to me.

Someone with more intelligence than me please explain it to me.

I'm assuming he was insured against potential injuries as a result of engaging in a body contact sport. Where do they think he got the bung knees from ? Ballroom dancing ? Origami ? Maybe it was playing Monopoly.

My favourite is one is the whole debate over "pre-existing". It wasn't pre-existing. I have clear memories of him in his first season having blinding pace and side stepping of both feet and accelerating. He has to get his money. The man has a legally binding contract. But for once, I feel for the club. I'm sure they paid premiums. So what exactly are they covered for ? Meteor strikes ? Tsunamis engulfing the field and taking out the whole roster in one go ?

Just accept the fact that as insurer, sometimes you have to pay. Do it. Shutup. And move on. There are plenty of players who never make a single claim. Take it out of those premiums.

I would assume that a club is expected to have done a medical assessment of a player prior to signing a new contract to protect their interests. During that assessment they should identify pre-existing conditions that might or might not present a future risk during the term of the contract.

So if a pre-existing injury gets aggravated to the point where it impacts on a player's ability to perform and it can be identified as such, that risk I expect falls back on the club.

But if the player happened to get a new injury whilst playing, for example a serious neck injury, and the player is advised by a doctor to cease playing immediately, then I would think that is where the insurance steps in to compensate because this event was unexpected and therefore unforeseen by his club.

 

[simon64]

I would assume that a club is expected to have done a medical assessment of a player prior to signing a new contract to protect their interests. During that assessment they should identify pre-existing conditions that might or might not present a future risk during the term of the contract.

So if a pre-existing injury gets aggravated to the point where it impacts on a player's ability to perform and it can be identified as such, that risk I expect falls back on the club.

But if the player happened to get a new injury whilst playing, for example a serious neck injury, and the player is advised by a doctor to cease playing immediately, then I would think that is where the insurance steps in to compensate because this event was unexpected and therefore unforeseen by his club.

Thanks for that Tweet.

Well if, as you say, Brett's knee condition was written into the policy for the sake of making the premium more manageable, then fair enough.

But Brett still has a contract for this year. He knows it's his last. If the club doesn't want him to play, I hope for the sake of the respect the guy deserves that things are handled well. I somehow doubt it though. Manly have a shocking record in that department.

 

[wombatgc]

Insurance accesors=C*nts

 

[manlyfan76]

Manly is arguing that it is not a pre existing injury, wen asked what proof they had counsel for Manly Joke Elly replied "it's the vibe of the thing".

 

[Shoe1]

Manly is arguing that it is not a pre existing injury, wen asked what proof they had counsel for Manly Joke Elly replied "it's the vibe of the thing".

Brett was arguing that it was a subdural haematoma. It was clear to the doctor that it was epidural goddamit

 

[NewwyEagle]

Sorry guys but I just don't buy injuries having ****ed us out of the 8. We only started to win once Brett wasn't playing any more, and Matai into our team does not make us a top 8 side. At full strength all season we probably get maybe one or two more wins but against who? We were beaten pretty convincingly pretty often. Maybe we beat the dogs or eels? Point being, we certainly don't get escalated into the 8. This wasn't 2011 snake, killer and Matai that were sitting on the sidelines. Myles being injured all the time seemed pretty fortunate actually. I'm happy to be wrong but I definitely won't be putting money on us to make the 8 next season.
You know, until February when I start to get excited.

 

[Bearfax]

Sorry guys but I just don't buy injuries having ****ed us out of the 8. We only started to win once Brett wasn't playing any more, and Matai into our team does not make us a top 8 side. At full strength all season we probably get maybe one or two more wins but against who? We were beaten pretty convincingly pretty often. Maybe we beat the dogs or eels? Point being, we certainly don't get escalated into the 8. This wasn't 2011 snake, killer and Matai that were sitting on the sidelines. Myles being injured all the time seemed pretty fortunate actually. I'm happy to be wrong but I definitely won't be putting money on us to make the 8 next season.
You know, until February when I start to get excited.

Have to disagree with you here NE. Manly had a lot more injuries than with Matai and Stewart. Further Manly lost 6 games by 4 points or less, two by one point in extra time. That's a potential 12 points and having their top team on the field for those matches, I think they would probably have won. That puts them at between 6th and 8th position.

 

[Freagle]

There was a time this season... About round 8 or so... When Snake decided to chime into the backline like he did in the good old days, playing like the legendary fullback/ playmaker he is... And we scored about three quick tries, all with his mark on them. And we looked good, we really did. Then he faded out of the game again, and we lost narrowly. He still has the ability, we know he does. We just need him to bring it to every game... Even for just a few brilliant minutes here and there. Turn up motivated and not injured Snake, and go out like the legend you have been for us.

 

[StuBoot]

Have to disagree with you here NE. Manly had a lot more injuries than with Matai and Stewart. Further Manly lost 6 games by 4 points or less, two by one point in extra time. That's a potential 12 points and having their top team on the field for those matches, I think they would probably have won. That puts them at between 6th and 8th position.

Yep, agree.
Defensively is where it's really noticed, not having the same player next to you each week certainly takes it toll which is why we looked totally inept out wide on more than a few occasions.
It's not necessarily the quality of who's out it's how many and how often.

 

[bones]

Have to disagree with you here NE. Manly had a lot more injuries than with Matai and Stewart. Further Manly lost 6 games by 4 points or less, two by one point in extra time. That's a potential 12 points and having their top team on the field for those matches, I think they would probably have won. That puts them at between 6th and 8th position.

If you're going to use the hypothetical scenario of putting all of the injured players back on the field for Manly for all 24 games this year, then wouldn't a more accurate estimate of where we may have finished also include doing the same for the other 15 teams and their injured players? Only moving Manly up the ladder is hardly fair. Every team probably lost at least one game because of players they were missing at some stage. Would Manly have beaten the Roosters in Rd 3 had Mitchell Pearce, Boyd Cordner and JWH played? Highly doubtful.

 

[SeaEagleRock8]

We finished where we deserved to finish. But that doesn't mean we can't be vastly better next year.

 

[voicefromthehill]

Insurance accesors=C*nts

That's what insurance assessors also think....

 

[NewwyEagle]

Have to disagree with you here NE. Manly had a lot more injuries than with Matai and Stewart. Further Manly lost 6 games by 4 points or less, two by one point in extra time. That's a potential 12 points and having their top team on the field for those matches, I think they would probably have won. That puts them at between 6th and 8th position.

Sorry but by my count we lost 4 games by 4 points or less. But let's also not forget we won a game in extra time against the warriors and were insanely lucky to beat the chooks due to a wrong offside call.
There's lots of things that can go wrong and right for teams. We lost ten games by 2 or more tries, and conceded a ridiculous amount of points whilst looking extremely ordinary in attack all season.
I'm not saying we wouldn't have had a better season without injuries, I just don't believe we would've made the top 8.

 

[Bearfax]

If you're going to use the hypothetical scenario of putting all of the injured players back on the field for Manly for all 24 games this year, then wouldn't a more accurate estimate of where we may have finished also include doing the same for the other 15 teams and their injured players? Only moving Manly up the ladder is hardly fair. Every team probably lost at least one game because of players they were missing at some stage. Would Manly have beaten the Roosters in Rd 3 had Mitchell Pearce, Boyd Cordner and JWH played? Highly doubtful.

The other fifteen sides had no where near the injury rate we had and to so many specialist positions. Yes I think we would have beaten SC. They were a rabble first half of the year. Injuries contributed and certainly like manly they had injuries to key players but I think with our full complement we would have beaten them

 

[HoldenV8]

Insurance accesors=C*nts

Rule number one of an insurance assessor is to find any way to get the insurance company out of paying anything.

Rule number two of an insurance assessor is to first learn rule number one.

 

[bones]

The other fifteen sides had no where near the injury rate we had and to so many specialist positions. Yes I think we would have beaten SC. They were a rabble first half of the year. Injuries contributed and certainly like manly they had injuries to key players but I think with our full complement we would have beaten them

Lol. We were lucky to beat them as it was. If not for a bunker error we would have lost. Add Pearce, Cordner and JWH to their team and it's highly likely we would have lost that game.

 

[Mals]

"We'll finished where we deserved to finish" Barrett quote from start of the season. When we did have a full compliment of players on the field we looked disjointed and disorganised. That comes down to poor preparation from the coaching staff. I can only hope Barrett learns from his mistakes this year and squeezes every ounce of footy ability and effort from our squad next season cause we are going to need it to be able to compete with the top sides.

 

[Sea Eagle 4 Life]

I thought this thread was about Brett Stewart???

 

[MadMarcus]

We finished where we deserved to finish. But that doesn't mean we can't be vastly better next year.

It does mean we can't be vastly worse though... Because that's not possible.