Get Cleary

rmd

Reserve Grader
Tipping Member
Ivan Cleary is contracted to end of 2027 at Penrith, and if Manly wants to win another premiership each decade since the 70’s, I believe Ivan will possibly achieve it, so they have to go after him with 'wallets open'.

If Manly sign Ivan from 2028 for 5 years, that will give Ivan two years to achieve the goal of a premiership each decade for Manly, but not only that decade. Ivan will attract players who want to win a premiership.

Why would Ivan want to sign and coach with Manly?

1) Nathan may want to play in the English Super League to be with Mary from 2028, so that would make it an easier decision for him, or even for Nathan to choose Rugby360, which if it actually eventuates, will be massive.

2) Imagine Ivan coaching Joey Walsh, Anotoni Large and his brother Ashton, along with Lehi and Koula, along with others he woud develop and attract to the club! We have a base, we just need the right coach and support staff.

3) Ivan is Manly, he started his career at Manly, so he understands the culture of Manly, and he will attract the type of players that embody the Manly culture.

Ivan Cleary, as coach looked in all sorts of trouble after round 12 this year and yet he still managed to instil a calm manner in the team and no panic. Penrith then went on a 9 game winning streak and while Penrith lost in controversial circumstances with the ‘Harry Grant Dive’ against the Storm, unless there are major injuries for Penrith, and Yeo returns from injury, I can actually see 5 premiership wins in a row.

If the Penn's really wanted to build value in the brand, they have to invest in the future, and Cleary, having played for Manly, would absolutely have all on the Northern Beaches embraced in membership and those who have suppported Manly outside of the Beaches.

The coaches who have won Manly prenierships have all been ex Manly players, and 'Hard arse bastrards'. Ron Willey, Cranky Frank, Bozo and Des, however, we need a change, as the culture of the playing group has changed throughout the NRL and we need someone who can embrace that and who has also played for and embraced Manly, and Ivan Cleary answers all those questions.
 
Ivan Cleary is contracted to end of 2027 at Penrith, and if Manly wants to win another premiership each decade since the 70’s, I believe Ivan will possibly achieve it, so they have to go after him with 'wallets open'.

If Manly sign Ivan from 2028 for 5 years, that will give Ivan two years to achieve the goal of a premiership each decade for Manly, but not only that decade. Ivan will attract players who want to win a premiership.

Why would Ivan want to sign and coach with Manly?

1) Nathan may want to play in the English Super League to be with Mary from 2028, so that would make it an easier decision for him, or even for Nathan to choose Rugby360, which if it actually eventuates, will be massive.

2) Imagine Ivan coaching Joey Walsh, Anotoni Large and his brother Ashton, along with Lehi and Koula, along with others he woud develop and attract to the club! We have a base, we just need the right coach and support staff.

3) Ivan is Manly, he started his career at Manly, so he understands the culture of Manly, and he will attract the type of players that embody the Manly culture.

Ivan Cleary, as coach looked in all sorts of trouble after round 12 this year and yet he still managed to instil a calm manner in the team and no panic. Penrith then went on a 9 game winning streak and while Penrith lost in controversial circumstances with the ‘Harry Grant Dive’ against the Storm, unless there are major injuries for Penrith, and Yeo returns from injury, I can actually see 5 premiership wins in a row.

If the Penn's really wanted to build value in the brand, they have to invest in the future, and Cleary, having played for Manly, would absolutely have all on the Northern Beaches embraced in membership and those who have suppported Manly outside of the Beaches.

The coaches who have won Manly prenierships have all been ex Manly players, and 'Hard arse bastrards'. Ron Willey, Cranky Frank, Bozo and Des, however, we need a change, as the culture of the playing group has changed throughout the NRL and we need someone who can embrace that and who has also played for and embraced Manly, and Ivan Cleary answers all those questions.
Aren't we done with Tigers rejects?
 
More chance of getting Bellamy.....unfortunately will be none of those options, more likely Ennis with an approach for Ballin is the reality moving forward
 
Why not throw stupid money at Bellamy and Cleary? Get one of them and Penn would recoup most of it through increased membership.
And if unsuccessful? Give Ange a call. He is a winner.
Seriously though, I would love Penn have the courage to appoint the Walker Brothers. You'd never know what to expect. Now, unfortunately, we do.
 
Why not throw stupid money at Bellamy and Cleary? Get one of them and Penn would recoup most of it through increased membership.
And if unsuccessful? Give Ange a call. He is a winner.
Seriously though, I would love Penn have the courage to appoint the Walker Brothers. You'd never know what to expect. Now, unfortunately, we do.
Eels already tried with the biggest contract in history for a coach but Bellamy denied it.
 
You cannot go past Jack Gibson's saying of what wins premierships...

"To win a championship, you've got to have a nucleus of five or six real tough, hard competitors,"

Manly 96 - Toovey, Carroll, Terry Hill, Ridge, Hoppa, Hasler, Beaver

Manly 2008 - Matai, Choc, Snake, Gift, Kite, Ballin, Killer, Orford

Manly 2011 - Matai, Choc, Snake, Gift, Kite, Ballin, Killer, Foz

Manly 2017 - 2021 - Jurbo, Dylan Walker, AFB, Api, Joel Thompson, Turbo, Tapau

Manly 2022 - 25 - Jurbo, Turbo, Ola

The players I left out is in no way meant out of disrespect or diminishing their contribution, but purely on what I based on maybe what Gibson's definition might mean.

I think if we had a decent coach during the Barrett years we would have snagged at least 1 premiership. If we had Cleary as the our coach during those years, Id say the chances might have been pretty good. But its easy to say in hindsight
 

Users who are viewing this thread

Staff online

  • Jethro
    Star Trekkin' across the universe

Members online

Latest posts

2025 Ladder

Team P W D L PD Pts
1 Raiders 21 17 0 4 168 40
2 Storm 21 16 0 5 252 38
3 Bulldogs 21 15 0 6 120 36
4 Warriors 21 13 0 8 12 32
5 Panthers 21 12 1 8 115 31
6 Broncos 21 12 0 9 114 30
7 Sharks 22 13 0 9 67 30
8 Roosters 21 11 0 10 92 28
9 Dolphins 21 10 0 11 109 26
10 Sea Eagles 21 9 0 12 -24 24
11 Tigers 21 9 0 12 -107 24
12 Dragons 21 8 0 13 -54 22
13 Cowboys 22 8 1 13 -144 21
14 Eels 21 7 0 14 -156 20
15 Rabbitohs 22 8 0 14 -191 20
16 Knights 21 6 0 15 -186 18
17 Titans 21 5 0 16 -187 16
Back
Top Bottom