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Ian Martin tragic
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Two years out at this stage is maybe a blessing in disguise (thanks all you latter day saints). maybe his career will be a bit longer. if you look at inglis, eg. he spends most of the time injured these days. bummer he won't be playing next year, phew he won't be at the dogs.
ERNIE FOR NO7
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Masked Eagle said:
Oh - !@#$%~^&*.
Next time you hear something on 2GB
`~#$^*+<@%# “
before you &^%$#&*$ post it.
DSM5 said:
actually he wont even be canvassing in australia keyword MISSIONARY.. i bet he goes to TONGA or AMERICA.. thats what they do.. they have to spend 2yrs spreading the word of god ...
what i dont get is did his dad do this also???
ISRAEL FOLAU looks like a jerk../
chasing the big bickies when he should be getting his spiritual enlightment like Will...ISRAEL FOLAU looks like a jerk../
chasing the big bickies when he should be getting his spiritual enlightment like Will...Copa Eagle
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John didnt do any Mormanship
Jatz Crackers
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ERNIE FOR NO7 said:
Fro, could you please fix this post.
Masked Eagle
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ERNIE FOR NO7 said:
Perhaps I shouldn't have said God I hope its true. Sounds like he changed his mind!
I hope he isn't playing games.
You know what they say, 'Fool me once, shane on you; fool me twice, shane on shane', or something like that. I think George Dubya summed it up best
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKgPY1adc0A&feature=related
You know what they say, 'Fool me once, shane on you; fool me twice, shane on shane', or something like that. I think George Dubya summed it up best
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKgPY1adc0A&feature=related
Brookie said:
Over 200 posts on this thread and your stands out as the worst by a country mile. Surprising from you Brookie.
The young bloke has made a decision that something in life is more important than being a high-paid star in the NRL. The last bloke I can think of who made that decision is currently our captain. I applauded him back then and I applaud Hoppa now, even though the Southpark video makes me laugh, if he wants out for whatever reason then go for it.
And Dan, I think it is to Manly's credit that they made the announcement. It doesn't advance our footy prospects for next year, but it does advance our standing as a club that cares a little for players, beyond what their bodies can produce on the field.
Berkeley_Eagle
Current Status: 24/7 Manly Fan
we still have amazing quality players for next season, Des and Crusher will get the best that is available and Crusher is always on the hunt for talent, Im pretty confident of having a great side for years to come as someone said on this site earlier Young Hoppa wasnt even discussed at the start of the season and it is a bonus to us that he has cemented his spot now ahead of wolfy, Trex, Oldfield, Whare, Lodge
Hopoate knocked back $1.5m NRL offers
David Beniuk
May 13, 2011 - 5:49PM
http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-sport/hopoate-knocked-back-15m-nrl-offers-20110513-1em2g.html
Rising Manly star Will Hopoate has put his faith ahead of becoming the highest paid 19-year-old in the NRL by choosing to undertake a Mormon mission, says Sea Eagles chairman Scott Penn.
Off contract with Manly at the end of this season, City representative Hopoate was one of the hottest properties on the market, with Canterbury and Parramatta the most prominent of a host of clubs chasing his signature.
Hopoate's father John, a former Manly and Test winger, let slip at Friday's media conference that at least one club had made an offer to his son worth $1.5 million.
"The money that he's walked away from is massive. It would have done him and the family well," John Hopoate said.
"But, in saying that, we're more than happy that he's made this decision because it's such a massive decision for a kid to walk away from that kind of money.
"Some clubs were offering 1.5 (million) for his services. That just goes to show what kind of person this kid is."
Penn admitted Manly's offer had also been substantial.
"We knew how strong his faith was and we knew that we'd put forward a very strong offer," he said.
"He was certainly going to be the highest paid 19-year-old out there.
"We respect his decision."
Hopoate will take leave from the game for two years while he embarks on unspecified work for his religion.
He joins his uncle, Albert Hopoate, and Gold Coast Titans youngster Jordan Rapana in choosing the mission.
Warriors back Krisnan Inu and AFL convert Israel Folau both considered time out of the game before deciding to continue their careers.
Will Hopoate said the big money offers had made him consider his choice carefully.
"It was quite tempting," he said. "I'm human, money talks.
"But I guess I wouldn't be as happy if I stayed."
His emergence as a potential NRL superstar also made the decision harder.
"I'd be lying if I say it didn't, but I've been brought up in the Mormon faith and this is who I am and this is what I want to do," he said.
Manly will turn their attention to ensuring that, when or if Hopoate comes back to rugby league, he returns to the Sea Eagles.
They will even consider paying him a fee to reserve the first and last rights on his services.
"It's important for us to try and keep him in the family so therefore some form of option will be important for us," Penn said.
"Typically with an option, there's financial compensation or the like."
In a week Sea Eagles coach Des Hasler said fullback Brett Stewart's soul still needed "cleansing", the controversial John Hopoate was sure his son's had been already.
"By him choosing what he's doing, putting the Lord before anything else, I think he will get blessings. He'll come back and I think he'll continue to play the way he is," he said.
Hopoate knocked back $1.5m NRL offers
David Beniuk
May 13, 2011 - 5:49PM
http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-sport/hopoate-knocked-back-15m-nrl-offers-20110513-1em2g.html
Rising Manly star Will Hopoate has put his faith ahead of becoming the highest paid 19-year-old in the NRL by choosing to undertake a Mormon mission, says Sea Eagles chairman Scott Penn.
Off contract with Manly at the end of this season, City representative Hopoate was one of the hottest properties on the market, with Canterbury and Parramatta the most prominent of a host of clubs chasing his signature.
Hopoate's father John, a former Manly and Test winger, let slip at Friday's media conference that at least one club had made an offer to his son worth $1.5 million.
"The money that he's walked away from is massive. It would have done him and the family well," John Hopoate said.
"But, in saying that, we're more than happy that he's made this decision because it's such a massive decision for a kid to walk away from that kind of money.
"Some clubs were offering 1.5 (million) for his services. That just goes to show what kind of person this kid is."
Penn admitted Manly's offer had also been substantial.
"We knew how strong his faith was and we knew that we'd put forward a very strong offer," he said.
"He was certainly going to be the highest paid 19-year-old out there.
"We respect his decision."
Hopoate will take leave from the game for two years while he embarks on unspecified work for his religion.
He joins his uncle, Albert Hopoate, and Gold Coast Titans youngster Jordan Rapana in choosing the mission.
Warriors back Krisnan Inu and AFL convert Israel Folau both considered time out of the game before deciding to continue their careers.
Will Hopoate said the big money offers had made him consider his choice carefully.
"It was quite tempting," he said. "I'm human, money talks.
"But I guess I wouldn't be as happy if I stayed."
His emergence as a potential NRL superstar also made the decision harder.
"I'd be lying if I say it didn't, but I've been brought up in the Mormon faith and this is who I am and this is what I want to do," he said.
Manly will turn their attention to ensuring that, when or if Hopoate comes back to rugby league, he returns to the Sea Eagles.
They will even consider paying him a fee to reserve the first and last rights on his services.
"It's important for us to try and keep him in the family so therefore some form of option will be important for us," Penn said.
"Typically with an option, there's financial compensation or the like."
In a week Sea Eagles coach Des Hasler said fullback Brett Stewart's soul still needed "cleansing", the controversial John Hopoate was sure his son's had been already.
"By him choosing what he's doing, putting the Lord before anything else, I think he will get blessings. He'll come back and I think he'll continue to play the way he is," he said.
silvertail
Reserve Grader
22 pages on young Hoppa. Amazing!
I am an atheist and I live my life by respecting the religious convictions of others. Yes, I am sad that he will not be playing next year.
Good luck to him and I think he will return after his mission and give us at least 10 superb years. Enjoy what he will show us this year and count the days until he returns. Be patient. He will return.
I am an atheist and I live my life by respecting the religious convictions of others. Yes, I am sad that he will not be playing next year.
Good luck to him and I think he will return after his mission and give us at least 10 superb years. Enjoy what he will show us this year and count the days until he returns. Be patient. He will return.
Jesus said:
Thank God you're here, I've been waiting for over 2000 years for you to come back. I was beginning to wonder whether someone was taking the p!ss about your imminent return. Thank goodness all those Sunday mornings weren't wasted after all.
So what now ?
Ian Martin tragic
Bencher
Jesus if you came to Manly, I'd put you in at 5/8 and move Foran to lock (I know, an oldie but a goodie....)
Berkeley_Eagle
Current Status: 24/7 Manly Fan
MANLY are moving to block rival clubs from poaching rising star Will Hopoate before he returns from a two-year Mormon mission in 2014.
Rather than earn in excess of $1 million at either Brookvale, Canterbury or Parramatta over the next three seasons, William Hopoate will head to Salt Lake City to commence the unpaid task of spreading God's word.
The NRL market's hottest young commodity, the 19-year-old Sea Eagle was chased by six rival clubs until he decided to quit the game on Thursday night in favour of pleas from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints to undertake the mission.
The Eels and Bulldogs were known to be Manly's biggest threat, with both Sydney powerhouses offering big personal incentives to lure Hopoate west.
Parramatta insiders say Hopoate was offered the chance to live with Eels coach Stephen Kearney, while Bulldogs assistant Jim Dymock spoke to the teenager at length about joining the Belmore club during last week's City camp.
Manly, however, are now trying to beat them to the punch more the two years ahead of Hopoate's return by making him an offer to give the Sea Eagles first and last option in negotiations for his next NRL contract.
"We'd certainly like to keep him in the family," Sea Eagles chairman Scott Penn said yesterday. "If he does choose the path he's chosen then we would like to look at a first and last option when he does come back so that we can have every opportunity to keep him at Manly. It's a risk, but it's a risk that's worth taking. It's important that we keep him in the family.
"We haven't signed off on that yet, but it's something we are working towards.
"He's already indicated he wants to come back. It's important that we try and get some form of agreement with him to back that up."
The arrangement would not require Hopoate to sign a new contract, but it could involve Manly paying their departing star a sum over the next two years to secure the first and last option.
Hopoate admitted the big money was hard to turn down, but said his mission trip was very close to his heart.
It is not confirmed where he will spend 2012 and 2013, but Mormon missionaries are particularly active in third world countries across Africa and South-East Asia.
"I'm human, money talks," Hopoate said. "I wouldn't be as happy if I stayed. This is what's going to make me more happy at the end of the day.
"I told the boys this is not something I'm forced to do or have to do, this is something that I want to do.
"God knows, mate. I'd love to come back and play, but we haven't got that far yet."
Parramatta last night indicated they would not seek to oppose Manly's attempts to secure privileged negotiating rights, while the Bulldogs are now expected to escalate their pursuit of off-contract Eel Joel Reddy to fill Jamal Idris's sizeable boots at right centre.
Needing to attract speed and youth to their backline for 2012, Parramatta have now missed out on both Hopoate and Sean Kenny-Dowall but still boast deep cash reserves to make a big-name purchase in the coming months.
"It was a very brave decision," Parramatta CEO Paul Osborne said yesterday.
"We obviously think he's a talent and would like to keep in touch with him. But we won't be putting any pressure on the kid after this."
Hopoate's departure will ease the pleasant three-quarter headache for Manly coach Des Hasler, who can no longer fit top-liners David and Tony Williams into his star-studded starting backline.
Hopoate's father and former Sea Eagles international John admitted his son had made an extraordinary financial sacrifice.
He has another boy, Jamil, playing for the club's SG Ball team and it remains to be seen whether or not the talented back-rower will follow in his older brother's faith-based footsteps.
"The money that he's walked away from is massive," said John Hopoate, who also works as the Sea Eagles' boxing coach.
"That he can walk away from that kind of money ... some clubs were offering $1.5 million over a couple of years ... to walk away from that is massive. That just goes to show what type of person this kid is. He's put his faith first before money."
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/manly-sea-eagles-out-to-block-william-hopoate-poachers/story-e6frexnr-1226055563900
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Will Hopoate may need God on his side
WILLIAM Hopoate's service to God could cost him his NRL career.
While there is no disputing the winger's talent or potential - he is a star in the making - a two-year absence from rugby league has the potential to see him end up on the football scrapheap.
William Hopoate's uncle Albert Hopoate, a talented winger in the mould of his famous brother John, also chose to put his religious beliefs in front of football. And he was never able to make it back.
William is certainly a class above Albert, but make no mistake he will find it tough to come back.
Right now, William is on the verge of breaking into the NSW Origin side. A brilliant finisher, he has size, skill and plenty of pace. In just the space of one year, he has gone from a talent to one of the most sought after players in the game. His development has been just staggering.
And that is the worry.
William is just beginning his rugby league development. Between the ages of 20 and 22, when he will be off in a foreign land serving the Mormon church, rugby league players grow into their frames. They bulk up, mature and learn valuable lessons along the way.
And they don't do this on their own.
As their bodies change, clubs monitor their every move. With the latest in sports science, they measure, weigh and predict. They know what is best for the player and dictate everything from what they eat to how they train.
Remember Israel Folau? As a teenager he was just another talent. But with the help of the Storm, he developed into one of the most feared attackers by the time he was 22.
To be fair, William won't be drinking, smoking or abusing his body while he's gone. You can be sure of that. And he will probably keep fit.
But still, while there will be no shortage of suitors, he will have to make up for lost time. It will be tough to come back but certainly not impossible. At least he will have God on his side.
@telejamesphelps
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http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/will-hopoate-may-need-god-on-his-side/story-e6frext9-1226055557493
Rather than earn in excess of $1 million at either Brookvale, Canterbury or Parramatta over the next three seasons, William Hopoate will head to Salt Lake City to commence the unpaid task of spreading God's word.
The NRL market's hottest young commodity, the 19-year-old Sea Eagle was chased by six rival clubs until he decided to quit the game on Thursday night in favour of pleas from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints to undertake the mission.
The Eels and Bulldogs were known to be Manly's biggest threat, with both Sydney powerhouses offering big personal incentives to lure Hopoate west.
Parramatta insiders say Hopoate was offered the chance to live with Eels coach Stephen Kearney, while Bulldogs assistant Jim Dymock spoke to the teenager at length about joining the Belmore club during last week's City camp.
Manly, however, are now trying to beat them to the punch more the two years ahead of Hopoate's return by making him an offer to give the Sea Eagles first and last option in negotiations for his next NRL contract.
"We'd certainly like to keep him in the family," Sea Eagles chairman Scott Penn said yesterday. "If he does choose the path he's chosen then we would like to look at a first and last option when he does come back so that we can have every opportunity to keep him at Manly. It's a risk, but it's a risk that's worth taking. It's important that we keep him in the family.
"We haven't signed off on that yet, but it's something we are working towards.
"He's already indicated he wants to come back. It's important that we try and get some form of agreement with him to back that up."
The arrangement would not require Hopoate to sign a new contract, but it could involve Manly paying their departing star a sum over the next two years to secure the first and last option.
Hopoate admitted the big money was hard to turn down, but said his mission trip was very close to his heart.
It is not confirmed where he will spend 2012 and 2013, but Mormon missionaries are particularly active in third world countries across Africa and South-East Asia.
"I'm human, money talks," Hopoate said. "I wouldn't be as happy if I stayed. This is what's going to make me more happy at the end of the day.
"I told the boys this is not something I'm forced to do or have to do, this is something that I want to do.
"God knows, mate. I'd love to come back and play, but we haven't got that far yet."
Parramatta last night indicated they would not seek to oppose Manly's attempts to secure privileged negotiating rights, while the Bulldogs are now expected to escalate their pursuit of off-contract Eel Joel Reddy to fill Jamal Idris's sizeable boots at right centre.
Needing to attract speed and youth to their backline for 2012, Parramatta have now missed out on both Hopoate and Sean Kenny-Dowall but still boast deep cash reserves to make a big-name purchase in the coming months.
"It was a very brave decision," Parramatta CEO Paul Osborne said yesterday.
"We obviously think he's a talent and would like to keep in touch with him. But we won't be putting any pressure on the kid after this."
Hopoate's departure will ease the pleasant three-quarter headache for Manly coach Des Hasler, who can no longer fit top-liners David and Tony Williams into his star-studded starting backline.
Hopoate's father and former Sea Eagles international John admitted his son had made an extraordinary financial sacrifice.
He has another boy, Jamil, playing for the club's SG Ball team and it remains to be seen whether or not the talented back-rower will follow in his older brother's faith-based footsteps.
"The money that he's walked away from is massive," said John Hopoate, who also works as the Sea Eagles' boxing coach.
"That he can walk away from that kind of money ... some clubs were offering $1.5 million over a couple of years ... to walk away from that is massive. That just goes to show what type of person this kid is. He's put his faith first before money."
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/manly-sea-eagles-out-to-block-william-hopoate-poachers/story-e6frexnr-1226055563900
.
Will Hopoate may need God on his side
WILLIAM Hopoate's service to God could cost him his NRL career.
While there is no disputing the winger's talent or potential - he is a star in the making - a two-year absence from rugby league has the potential to see him end up on the football scrapheap.
William Hopoate's uncle Albert Hopoate, a talented winger in the mould of his famous brother John, also chose to put his religious beliefs in front of football. And he was never able to make it back.
William is certainly a class above Albert, but make no mistake he will find it tough to come back.
Right now, William is on the verge of breaking into the NSW Origin side. A brilliant finisher, he has size, skill and plenty of pace. In just the space of one year, he has gone from a talent to one of the most sought after players in the game. His development has been just staggering.
And that is the worry.
William is just beginning his rugby league development. Between the ages of 20 and 22, when he will be off in a foreign land serving the Mormon church, rugby league players grow into their frames. They bulk up, mature and learn valuable lessons along the way.
And they don't do this on their own.
As their bodies change, clubs monitor their every move. With the latest in sports science, they measure, weigh and predict. They know what is best for the player and dictate everything from what they eat to how they train.
Remember Israel Folau? As a teenager he was just another talent. But with the help of the Storm, he developed into one of the most feared attackers by the time he was 22.
To be fair, William won't be drinking, smoking or abusing his body while he's gone. You can be sure of that. And he will probably keep fit.
But still, while there will be no shortage of suitors, he will have to make up for lost time. It will be tough to come back but certainly not impossible. At least he will have God on his side.
@telejamesphelps
[email protected]
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/will-hopoate-may-need-god-on-his-side/story-e6frext9-1226055557493
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