The Ashes, 2023.

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Dion Johnson

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Another good contest with some different strategies played out, the Bairstow wicket will be good for the rest of the series and add some more spice to the remaining games.
 

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woohoo!

2-0 up.

No Lyon though :(

This is a good series. Though I still would've taken the new ball.
 

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Disgusting behaviour by a collection of disgruntled boomers in the long room as aust walked past. NO wonder the MCC apologised to cricket Aust.

Pretty tough chirping off as a 70 year old when the players can't knock your over privileged, in-bred, dentures back down your throat.


An MCC spokesperson said: “The Long Room is unique in world cricket and the great privilege of players passing through the Pavilion is very special. After this morning’s play, emotions were running high, and words were unfortunately exchanged with some of the Australian team, by a small number of members.
We have unreservedly apologised to the Australian team and will deal with any member who has not maintained the standard we expect through our disciplinary processes. It was not necessary to eject anyone from the ground and I am pleased to say that there was no repeat of this as the players resumed the field for this afternoon’s session.”
 
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Disgusting behaviour by a collection of disgruntled boomers in the long room as aust walked past. NO wonder the MCC apologised to cricket Aust.

Pretty tough chirping off as a 70 year old when the players can't knock your over privileged, in-bred, dentures back down your throat.

Yeah I saw that bloody soap dodgers. Bairstow deserved what he got, great work by Carey. If it wasn’t for their kiwi captain they wouldn’t have got close to us.
 

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Is anyone able to describe what “the spirit of the game” really means? It seems to me that it has selective application, depending on which side is supported / opposed…

England will no doubt claim they are 2-0 up now. They won the first test because it’s only because of them that Australia could win, and the won the second test because they won the spirit of the contest…

The stumping furore overshadowed a great game of cricket. Wonderful performance by the Aussies, and a heartstopping, incredible innings by Stokes.

As for Stokes, if he can bat like he did at Headingly in 2019 and at Lords yesterday, you have to wonder why he doesn’t average significantly higher.
 

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Yeah I saw that bloody soap dodgers. Bairstow deserved what he got, great work by Carey. If it wasn’t for their kiwi captain they wouldn’t have got close to us.

It was great work by Carey. when they asked Starc about it, he said "If my catch was not out, then Bairtow's stumping was out."

Is anyone able to describe what “the spirit of the game” really means? It seems to me that it has selective application, depending on which side is supported / opposed…

England will no doubt claim they are 2-0 up now. They won the first test because it’s only because of them that Australia could win, and the won the second test because they won the spirit of the contest…

The stumping furore overshadowed a great game of cricket. Wonderful performance by the Aussies, and a heartstopping, incredible innings by Stokes.

As for Stokes, if he can bat like he did at Headingly in 2019 and at Lords yesterday, you have to wonder why he doesn’t average significantly higher.

I doubt Eng will claim they are 2 up (except for some fans), Stokes certainly doesn't. Regarding the stumping it's interesting he said "Oh if it was me I'd have to have a look at the whole spirt of the game situation" - though it's usually the loser who says that.

The funny thing about describing what the spirit of the game means...it's like that politician who said once..."I can't define porn but I know it when I see it."

Sprit of the game would be respecting the rules wouldn't it? If batsmen want to wander out of the crease without confirming the ball is dead...then too bad. The same with 'mankadding' - don't leave your friggen crease. Bowlers have to run in at full pace then make sure they turn and appeal to the umpire (Billy Bowden insisted that was brought back in) - respect the rules.

You can easily say that it was against the spirit of the game to see Starc take an obvious catch...yet the batsman didn't walk - and still accepted the umpire's call of not out, they didn't do that, so don't moan when the umpire says bairstow is out.

I've heard the "same old aussies, always cheating" chant for 20+ years now. In Brisbane one year we just replied 'same old pommies, always losing' (though you're always going to get drowned out by the barmy army who believe if they win the chants...somehow they win the game. lol).

Still, a good match and the next one will be just as intense, and hopefully if there's a members area that Aust have to walk past, players don't get insulted and assaulted like the 'home of cricket', boreds, I mean Lords.
 

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Sprit of the game would be respecting the rules wouldn't it? If batsmen want to wander out of the crease without confirming the ball is dead...then too bad. The same with 'mankadding' - don't leave your friggen crease. Bowlers have to run in at full pace then make sure they turn and appeal to the umpire (Billy Bowden insisted that was brought back in) - respect the rules.

You can easily say that it was against the spirit of the game to see Starc take an obvious catch...yet the batsman didn't walk - and still accepted the umpire's call of not out, they didn't do that, so don't moan when the umpire says bairstow is out.
Totally agree with what you write here. Respecting the rules (or Laws for the purists) has to be the central tenant of “the spirit” - it’s the only objective standard that will stand the test of time. Certainly I was taught that accepting the umpires decision without question was one of the main features of “the spirit”.

my jibe about England thinking they are 2-0 up is more directed at the likes of Robinson given his comments post the first test.

Man I really want 5-0!
 

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Is anyone able to describe what “the spirit of the game” really means? It seems to me that it has selective application, depending on which side is supported / opposed…

England will no doubt claim they are 2-0 up now. They won the first test because it’s only because of them that Australia could win, and the won the second test because they won the spirit of the contest…

The stumping furore overshadowed a great game of cricket. Wonderful performance by the Aussies, and a heartstopping, incredible innings by Stokes.

As for Stokes, if he can bat like he did at Headingly in 2019 and at Lords yesterday, you have to wonder why he doesn’t average significantly higher.
Yep, I think the whole spirit of the game thing is subjective, isn't it. I guess some things can be agreed upon like if a team decides that they're going to pack a left side field and then bowl short pitched balls all day at someone's head in an era when there were no helmets around - oh wait! Or dare I say, bowling a ball underarm - oh dear! But what happened and the way it happened to Bairstow, sorry old chum, if you are going to go wandering around like a lost sheep .......

And as for Stokes, some players can turn rational thinking people into morons and Stokes has the ability to do that to us for some reason. I don't have enough hair left to be pulling it out watching insane bowling tactics that we seem to deliver to Stokes when he starts belting us around.

I didn't really need it after the stress of being at Brookie yesterday but thankfully they both worked out well. It's only after it's over that I can sit back and say, yep, they were both entertaining @:D
 
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"(The) MCC can confirm it has suspended three members identified from earlier today. They will not be permitted back to Lord's whilst the investigation takes place and were informed of this by MCC Chief Executive, Guy Lavender, this evening," the statement read.
 
Yeah I saw that bloody soap dodgers. Bairstow deserved what he got, great work by Carey. If it wasn’t for their kiwi captain they wouldn’t have got close to us.
How many years has Bairstow played cricket? How does be not know the rules when the ball is dead!…. And he is a wicket keeper! He has a brain explosion and of course it is Australia’s fault that he couldn’t wait for the umpire to call ‘over’
 

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Video showing Bairstow trying the exact thing only 2 days ago 😂🤦🏻‍♂️

Yeah...there's a lot of hypocrisy going on with the eng coach and captn here.

Happy with the win thanks.
 

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