The Daly Cherrygraph

[Eagle 1]

As bad as things are going there is a massive light at the end of the tunnel that is now only 5 games away. How sad are the next 2 home games going to be for him - 350th against the Dolphins and last home game against the Warriors. Watch the club try to celebrate it but I’ll just be cheering to see the back of the prick

The Dolphins game could get really ugly, it'll be just muted applause with a tissue type banner to run through. Can't see a walk around after the game. Kinda like, let's get the game done and then get outa here.

 

[themanwithnoname]

His short line drop-out restart doesn't gets sufficient height for anyone to contest the ball. It usually goes straight to an opposition player 20 metres from our line. Maybe someone else should try this kick?

 

[JBW]

It's interesting isn't it. The last rocks and diamonds player we had was probably Cliffy and youd never read a bad thing about him.

But obviously there are glaring differences. Cliffy played in some amazing lineup's, even up til retirement. Daly hasn't really had an amazing line up since 2015. And you could say that this is because of the cap space used by him and two others.

There's zero doubts that Daly would have won more rings if he had been at Bronco's, Melbourne etc. But apart from 2021 when Tom had an industry topping season, we've never been in the hunt. And even some might say we were flat track bullies that year.

I totally respect his durability, those golden points drop goals, the fact he's always backed up after origin, even in his later years, and also what he's achieved at rep level. But I'll also always remember the circus that has always been his contract renewals.

Bottom line is, he's played one or two years too long for us. Without still knowing what really went down last year when he allegedly asked for a release, maybe in hindsight they should have let him go.

 

[CoreyWaddellSuperFan]

It's interesting isn't it. The last rocks and diamonds player we had was probably Cliffy and youd never read a bad thing about him.

But obviously there are glaring differences. Cliffy played in some amazing lineup's, even up til retirement. Daly hasn't really had an amazing line up since 2015. And you could say that this is because of the cap space used by him and two others.

There's zero doubts that Daly would have won more rings if he had been at Bronco's, Melbourne etc. But apart from 2021 when Tom had an industry topping season, we've never been in the hunt. And even some might say we were flat track bullies that year.

I totally respect his durability, those golden points drop goals, the fact he's always backed up after origin, even in his later years, and also what he's achieved at rep level. But I'll also always remember the circus that has always been his contract renewals.

Bottom line is, he's played one or two years too long for us. Without still knowing what really went down last year when he allegedly asked for a release, maybe in hindsight they should have let him go.

Hmmmm.

I really can't have Cliffy and DCE mentioned in the same post, make that postcode ... alright then, universe.

Cliffy is everything Manly that DCE never was

 

[Phobia]

It's interesting isn't it. The last rocks and diamonds player we had was probably Cliffy and youd never read a bad thing about him.

But obviously there are glaring differences. Cliffy played in some amazing lineup's, even up til retirement. Daly hasn't really had an amazing line up since 2015. And you could say that this is because of the cap space used by him and two others.

There's zero doubts that Daly would have won more rings if he had been at Bronco's, Melbourne etc. But apart from 2021 when Tom had an industry topping season, we've never been in the hunt. And even some might say we were flat track bullies that year.

I totally respect his durability, those golden points drop goals, the fact he's always backed up after origin, even in his later years, and also what he's achieved at rep level. But I'll also always remember the circus that has always been his contract renewals.

Bottom line is, he's played one or two years too long for us. Without still knowing what really went down last year when he allegedly asked for a release, maybe in hindsight they should have let him go.

Great points here, but there's one massive difference you have ignored. Cliffy had a 6 on his back. DCE has a 7 on his.

He isn't here to be the rocks and diamonds shotgun player. He's supposed to be our $1 million game managing halfback, and yet he just does anything that springs to his mind, with apparently zero self control.

I've heard Gould, Johns, and the like say that the greatest halfback's have a bread and butter they can return to. If the chips are down, Cleary can run it, and create a fast PTB. Fogarty can put up a hell of a bomb. Hughes uses his running game to try and create a line break.

DCE still doesn't have one. It might just be dropping it off to a flat footed Corey Waddell. Is that what we truly expect out of a halfback with nearly 350 games to his name?

DCE is great in a good team... But halfbacks of his supposed and claimed calibre, should have the ability to pull us out of this mess. It's why I'm fascinated to see what Fogarty brings instead.

 

[Turtlely Fatigued]

Hmmmm.

I really can't have Cliffy and DCE mentioned in the same post, make that postcode ... alright then, universe.

Cliffy is everything Manly that DCE never was

Not sure the universe would be big enough LOL

But seriously, having been a Manly fan from 1967 to 2023, I am pretty certain that DCE is close to cracking the clubs top 10 halfbacks list.

If only we could win 60-70 games in a row to increase his win percentage from 46% since 2014 to about 50% which would lift him from 'Bog Average' to 'Average' and perhaps sneak him into 9th or 10th spot of our all time great halves.

 

[Rocky]

Has anyone else noticed how DCE spends the whole full time press conference touching his head and his face? It's really strange.

 

[Chip and Chase]

It's interesting isn't it. The last rocks and diamonds player we had was probably Cliffy and youd never read a bad thing about him.

But obviously there are glaring differences. Cliffy played in some amazing lineup's, even up til retirement. Daly hasn't really had an amazing line up since 2015. And you could say that this is because of the cap space used by him and two others.

There's zero doubts that Daly would have won more rings if he had been at Bronco's, Melbourne etc. But apart from 2021 when Tom had an industry topping season, we've never been in the hunt. And even some might say we were flat track bullies that year.

I totally respect his durability, those golden points drop goals, the fact he's always backed up after origin, even in his later years, and also what he's achieved at rep level. But I'll also always remember the circus that has always been his contract renewals.

Bottom line is, he's played one or two years too long for us. Without still knowing what really went down last year when he allegedly asked for a release, maybe in hindsight they should have let him go.

Broncos, Melbourne etc wouldn't have put up with his averageness for 10+ years

 

[Cochrane]

Cliff was a player that made many other players better. They weren't average by any means, but think how different the side would have played if there was never a Cliffy.

You just don't compare any player to Cliffy, he wasn't one in a generation, he was one in a lifetime, ask the likes of Gould, Matty Johns etc who whether you like them or not, know their stuff.

 

[Cliffycomeback]

Cliff was a player that made many other players better. They weren't average by any means, but think how different the side would have played if there was never a Cliffy.

You just don't compare any player to Cliffy, he wasn't one in a generation, he was one in a lifetime, ask the likes of Gould, Matty Johns etc who whether you like them or not, know their stuff.

Cliffy remains the most naturally gifted ball player I have ever seen. He was a sorcerer with the football in two hands, capable of creating holes in defensive lines like no other. I rate him him the best signing the club ever made. Two premierships which should have been at least three.

 

[jbb/james]

It's interesting isn't it. The last rocks and diamonds player we had was probably Cliffy and youd never read a bad thing about him.

But obviously there are glaring differences. Cliffy played in some amazing lineup's, even up til retirement. Daly hasn't really had an amazing line up since 2015. And you could say that this is because of the cap space used by him and two others.

There's zero doubts that Daly would have won more rings if he had been at Bronco's, Melbourne etc. But apart from 2021 when Tom had an industry topping season, we've never been in the hunt. And even some might say we were flat track bullies that year.

I totally respect his durability, those golden points drop goals, the fact he's always backed up after origin, even in his later years, and also what he's achieved at rep level. But I'll also always remember the circus that has always been his contract renewals.

Bottom line is, he's played one or two years too long for us. Without still knowing what really went down last year when he allegedly asked for a release, maybe in hindsight they should have let him go.

I agree. I have always maintained that at Manly, daly was not fit for purpose
In other clubs he could indeed be the cherry on top, but once entrenched as manlys captain, no 1 signing and half attempting to build a team around him is difficult due his unique skillset seeming giving him a free pass to skate through in other areas that we want, need and search for year after year

at manly, his own contract, especially the orig 2 year extension , the club and many other reasons meant the only way both parties improve is to part ways IMO

Between them, they have just delayed our rebuild which will have extra phases added with the the re negs of jurbo turbo bros

But it got unnecessarily ugly and now its a saga because of Ego

 

[Ron E. Gibbs]

Broncos, Melbourne etc wouldn't have put up with his averageness for 10+ years

And that's pretty much it in a nutshell.

In the 10 years since he backflipped on the Titans, the only thing he has won (outside of State of Origin and other rep duties) is a Clive Churchill medal in a grand final we lost, and he was lucky to get that.

I get why we were desperate to re-sign him (Foran was already gone, and the panic set in), but in hindsight surely we would have been better to have let him walk. We could have had another halfback - or two or three other halfbacks - in that time for the same amount of premierships: zero, zilch, nada. We might have even been more successful as a club. But of course, we'll never know.

His best quality in his time with us has been his durability. He has been remarkably free of injury. He's won us a handful of games with field goals, and he's always been good for a 40/20. We've made the finals a few times, although apart from that one grand final we've never looked like serious contenders. And that's pretty much all we've got to show for it.

He will walk into a stacked Roosters team next year and they will likely be more successful than we will. They might even win Cherry a "fairytale" grand final. Hurray. He can then retire a Roosters legend.

I probably won't be thrilled if that happens. But I will still be thrilled his era with Manly is finally over. We weren't able to build anything with him, so we may as well try to build something without him.

 

[Brookie1973]

And that's pretty much it in a nutshell.

In the 10 years since he backflipped on the Titans, the only thing he has won (outside of State of Origin and other rep duties) is a Clive Churchill medal in a grand final we lost, and he was lucky to get that.

I get why we were desperate to re-sign him (Foran was already gone, and the panic set in), but in hindsight surely we would have been better to have let him walk. We could have had another halfback - or two or three other halfbacks - in that time for the same amount of premierships: zero, zilch, nada. We might have even been more successful as a club. But of course, we'll never know.

His best quality in his time with us has been his durability. He has been remarkably free of injury. He's won us a handful of games with field goals, and he's always been good for a 40/20. We've made the finals a few times, although apart from that one grand final we've never looked like serious contenders. And that's pretty much all we've got to show for it.

He will walk into a stacked Roosters team next year and they will likely be more successful than we will. They might even win Cherry a "fairytale" grand final. Hurray. He can then retire a Roosters legend.

I probably won't be thrilled if that happens. But I will still be thrilled his era with Manly is finally over. We weren't able to build anything with him, so we may as well try to build something without him.

Yes, in hindsight, we would probably have been better off to let him walk to the titans. Certainly no worse off, because we haven’t won anything since then. Ten years of a more balanced roster - who knows what would have been. But it’s all hindsight - I would have been gutted if we’d lost both Foran and DCE all those years ago.

 

[hozza]

Broncos, Melbourne etc wouldn't have put up with his averageness for 10+ years

No sporting organisation throughout the world would have.
Name me a sporting organisation in any code, anywhere in the world , who had a Captain, that didn’t get to a Grand final, or win a Premiership ( League, Championship, title), that would of put up with his mediocre rubbish? As a CAPTAIN…… to be clear for the fanboi’s that hang onto 2011..
You cant. It’s mind bending.
( shhhhh Fanboi’s, nobody cares what he’s done for QLD).

Anyway @Chip and Chase , not long till he’s gone. Hopefully forever..

His last game is a glorious day for this club.

 

[HK_Eagle]

Has anyone else noticed how DCE spends the whole full time press conference touching his head and his face? It's really strange.

I'd say he has a motor tic. Mild, and probably learned to mask it from a very early age.

 

[Bradza]

Cliff was a player that made many other players better. They weren't average by any means, but think how different the side would have played if there was never a Cliffy.

You just don't compare any player to Cliffy, he wasn't one in a generation, he was one in a lifetime, ask the likes of Gould, Matty Johns etc who whether you like them or not, know their stuff.

The sad thing is that Cliffy never made the money out of the game that his skills deserved. He truly played for the love of the game. Combine that with the entertainment he gave us all and that is why he’ll always be my favourite all time player. Wombat is number 2.