The Kieran Forum

[susan]

So basically what you are suggesting is our poor team performances are in the most part due to Forans lack of effort(not disagreeing or have ever debated the reduced effort part) because the way Fans are singling out Foran this appears to be the case.

It is a combination of not having the forwards, injuries, a lack of drive and personal pride in each ones own performance, too much politics filtering into the playing squad and a sense of entitlement within the squad(previous years) and in other areas of the club.

Does he look like he is sulking like a spoilt brat in some instances yes but not the only one that is for sure.

What I am saying is simple.Read my lips.He is one of our playmakers,one of our leaders,earns 650k a year and he plays like he doesn't care.Complicate it if you want with comparison to others and technical mambo jumbo but the simple fact Is he has given up on the Manly Warringah Jersey and is quite frankly an embarrassment.

 

[Technical Coach]

I hate being last !!

Much better being first I'm told grow some balls and give it a shot .

 

[manlyfan76]

Much better being first I'm told grow some balls and give it a shot .

We need to grow some ball players.

 

[Technical Coach]

What I am saying is simple.Read my lips.He is one of our playmakers,one of our leaders,earns 650k a year and he plays like he doesn't care.Complicate it if you want with comparison to others and technical mambo jumbo but the simple fact Is he has given up on the Manly Warringah Jersey and is quite frankly an embarrassment.

The embarrassing aspect of all this is even performing at his current level it is still better than some in the squad.

 

[susan]

No the real embarrassment is that you are giving him cudos for performing slightly better than blokes who earn 1/4 of his salary.

 

[Mark from Brisbane]

Can't comment for a while, I'm busy growing balls!!

 

[TWO DOGS]

Can't comment for a while, I'm busy growing balls!!

So we won't hear a squeak out of you for a while Mark?

 

[mickqld]

Maybe it would be easier if we highlighted the players who were putting in this year.
Trbojevic brothers, Lui (although he's a bench player at best ,not our premier 2nd rower), Ballin (but his limitations are really showing now) , Buhrer ( but too small and getting injured too much now he carries the backrow) , Mateo (for 2 games at 5/8) . The rest are either too injured , not up to Manly first grade standard or don't give a fuk.

 

[Mark from Brisbane]

So we won't hear a squeak out of you for a while Mark?

Nup, I just looked , and I have two!!
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[Mark from Brisbane]

Maybe it would be easier if we highlighted the players who were putting in this year.
Trbojevic brothers, Lui (although he's a bench player at best ,not our premier 2nd rower), Ballin (but his limitations are really showing now) , Buhrer ( but too small and getting injured too much now he carries the backrow) , Mateo (for 2 games at 5/8) . The rest are either too injured , not up to Manly first grade standard or don't give a fuk.

That is sadly a fair summation of the state of play.

 

[mickqld]

Nup, I just looked , and I have two!!
,

My Mrs took mine when we got married. They're held in escrow.

 

[HoldenV8]

The sad thing is that I don't think Foran is out of form. He definitely wasn't during the
4 Nations for NZ and in that 5 minutes he woke up and played on Saturday against Canberra he definitely wasn't out of form.

His effort level in both attack and defence just isn't there right now and hasn't been there since August. That's the hardest thing to take as a fan.

 

[Mark from Brisbane]

The sad thing is that I don't think Foran is out of form. He definitely wasn't during the
4 Nations for NZ and in that 5 minutes he woke up and played on Saturday against Canberra he definitely wasn't out of form.

His effort level in both attack and defence just isn't there right now and hasn't been there since August. That's the hardest thing to take as a fan.

Can I like this maybe 1000 times.

There you have it, in a nutshell.

 

[Ryan]

My Mrs took mine when we got married. They're held in escrow.

Welcome to the club mate

 

[Technical Coach]

No the real embarrassment is that you are giving him cudos for performing slightly better than blokes who earn 1/4 of his salary.

What has his pay scale got to do with it----I will treat a $650,000 player the same as a $300,000 in terms of criticizing effort so why should that be any different to a player earning just $80,0000.

I do expect a more talented player at a higher pay scale but in terms of effort and putting in I don't see your point.

 

[Technical Coach]

Can I like this maybe 1000 times.

There you have it, in a nutshell.

Are you saying that in those 5mins Foran "decided" to perform hmmmm I don't think so.

 

[Mark from Brisbane]

Are you saying that in those 5mins Foran "decided" to perform hmmmm I don't think so.

Well how were his stats for the previous 60 minutes??

I don't have them exactly , but I'd suggest , ran once for 10
Metres, made one tackle and kicked the ball to no where once!!

If you think he's been performing " to his peak " then I don't need to grow balls, you need to go to Specsavers!!

 

[HoldenV8]

Are you saying that in those 5mins Foran "decided" to perform hmmmm I don't think so.

He certainly didn't perform in the previous 60 minutes.

A happy Kieran Foran would have torn the Raiders a new one on Saturday. The one that is currently playing in the Manly #6 jumper simply didn't give a stuff. Or at least it appears that way.

 

[killerspud]

I hate being last !!

And didnt it happen quick..are we Seriously last. .someone pinch me..

 

[the mauler]

Maybe it would be easier if we highlighted the players who were putting in this year.
Trbojevic brothers, Lui (although he's a bench player at best ,not our premier 2nd rower), Ballin (but his limitations are really showing now) , Buhrer ( but too small and getting injured too much now he carries the backrow) , Mateo (for 2 games at 5/8) . The rest are either too injured , not up to Manly first grade standard or don't give a fuk.

I think Willie has been having a crack as well.