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I actually disagree on this one. You only have to see the Dem NY mayoral candidate to see the future of the Democratic Party. Socialism/communist-lite has massive appeal to the disenfranchised, who vastly outnumber moderates/conservatives on a global scale. The future is global socialism overseen by the global elite, and all that that entails. Individual nation states will cease to exist in any meaningful way. Western civilisation peaked in the 1980s/1990s and will never recover. At least with Trump we are going out with a bang. And if you think the level of public discourse has deteriorated through the Trump era, wait until we have all the “diverse” elements of the Leftist “big tent” arguing over the scraps. It will make the 200 year upheaval amongst the Huns/visogoths/vandals/franks/burgundians et al at the end of the Roman Empire seem like a picnic. Can’t see Manly winning any premierships either.
Socialism has always been seen as a scary word. What Mamdani believes in is Democratic Socialism. Essentially, taxing billionaires / millionaires more to fund public infrastructure, transport and the like. Taxing poor people less. Hardly radical. People don’t ever stop to consider just how BIG a billion dollars is. It’s a thousand million dollars

US biggest problem is wealth/power inequality and third world healthcare. Yet contrary to your messaging, they are the wealthiest country in the world. In other words, it’s not an existential crisis in any way, shape or form.

Communism is what you are referring to, whereby everyone gives their everything to the people in power and trusts that they will act in their interest. Soviet-era Communism is what happens when there’s no guiding democratic framework. Without the framework, Russia gradually became undone and devolved into a totalitarian hellhole. The initial ideas of Marx were somewhat followed by Lenin, but Stalin eventually used contextual crisis’s (famine, external threats) to redefine a more totalitarian rendition. Like Trump he installed loyalists and purged news, military, law enforcement ranks to shape the country HE wanted. Like yourself, some people supported it because Stalin convinced people it was do or die, now or never. I wish people like yourself could see that what’s happening in America is history repeating!!

Now socialist ideals just get lumped together with an entirely different beast. Tonnes and Tonnes of videos of Trump fans being asked to “define socialism” and they freeze or make up some nonsense on the spot. This is all part of the reason I kept pulling the uneducated card; because while Americans in general aren’t well-versed in history, MAGA tend to be oblivious to it, or confidently incorrect (the worst kind).


Mamdani’s views are no where near as radical as the “big beautiful bill” and the lies told to MAGA/republicans to get them onboard. Here’s a fact check on various aspects of the bill.

It’ll kick millions of people off Medicaid / cut health insurance from people in the middle class AND add trillions to the deficit. The money goes to tax cuts which are heavily weighted towards the ultra wealthy. Is this what “going out with a bang” looks like? That sense of urgency just screams that Trump’s fear mongering rhetoric has gotten through to you. Don’t be one of them


Check out the above video. What happened since? Notice all the republicans booing it, yet now they advocate for it?? Everything’s played out as predicted right now, and when Biden can see the future better than yourself it’s time to reconsider how deep in the hole you may be
 
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I know how big $24 billion is. Pity the California Dems seemed to have lost that amount somewhere. No matter, the solution according to Gavin is to sack govt workers, and cut education and health spending. Still, just a drop in the bucket compared to the $1 trillion in improper payments under Biden/Harris. Welcome to the leftist future. Sounds idyllic.

Putting the word “democratic” in front of anything sure makes it sound so nice. What could go wrong?
 
I know how big $24 billion is. Pity the California Dems seemed to have lost that amount somewhere. No matter, the solution according to Gavin is to sack govt workers, and cut education and health spending. Still, just a drop in the bucket compared to the $1 trillion in improper payments under Biden/Harris. Welcome to the leftist future. Sounds idyllic.

Putting the word “democratic” in front of anything sure makes it sound so nice. What could go wrong?
Yea, I've noticed they sometimes say, example, the next Democratic Senator will be, instead of just ...Democrat. This is so irritating.
 
This is what is wrong with american politics. It used to be where even if you were elected you at least tried to govern for all americans. Overall he is deeply unpopular (and I know that polls can be biased which is why I have included a few)

164 days into Donald Trump’s term The president's net approval rating is -12%, up 0.8 points since last week. 42% approve, 54% disapprove, 5% are not sure


This is interesting especially when you scroll down to the section that shows a number of polls. Out of the 72 polls only 9 had him with a positive approval rating.

Even his honey moon period only meant that he beat one other president in their first 100 days....his first term

 
This is what is wrong with american politics. It used to be where even if you were elected you at least tried to govern for all americans. Overall he is deeply unpopular (and I know that polls can be biased which is why I have included a few)

164 days into Donald Trump’s term The president's net approval rating is -12%, up 0.8 points since last week. 42% approve, 54% disapprove, 5% are not sure


This is interesting especially when you scroll down to the section that shows a number of polls. Out of the 72 polls only 9 had him with a positive approval rating.

Even his honey moon period only meant that he beat one other president in their first 100 days....his first term

Governing for all Americans;


Opinion polls;



 
I know how big $24 billion is. Pity the California Dems seemed to have lost that amount somewhere. No matter, the solution according to Gavin is to sack govt workers, and cut education and health spending. Still, just a drop in the bucket compared to the $1 trillion in improper payments under Biden/Harris. Welcome to the leftist future. Sounds idyllic.

Putting the word “democratic” in front of anything sure makes it sound so nice. What could go wrong?
And that's a great example again of why elements of both parties are corrupt. It's corporate America, if not the case forever then it has at least been this way since big money started making its way into the political scene decades back. An unaccounted for $24 billion does not conclude that it all got shovelled into offshore bank accounts or anything, but i'd happily put my tin foil hat on and agree this probably is part of what happened there. Who knows.

Nationalism, Christian Nationalism. Two vastly different ideas. You call a Nationalist a Christian Nationalist and they give you a confused look. "we are not the same"

Socialism, Democratic Socialism. Same goes, believe it or not. But i'm not entirely sure you caught my drift on the whole Communism vs Socialism thing by the sounds of that response. What happened in Stalinist Russia is Communism - a totalitarian system that gets rid of all classes and enforces shared ownership of production, resources, infrastructure etc. Total deviation from socialism. Democratic socialism is a deviation but in the other direction.

This video will help understand the nuances of Socialism, Communism and Democratic Socialism (ignore the website, it's first video I stumbled on that covered the three topics fairly succinctly). Im not entirely sure if you're just skipping over these links or not. At the end of the day it is up to you but by taking some time to learn new things it'll only help you keep a wider perspective on things


Since 80's or so, back when many of MAGA claim US was great, corporate America has been built. From big industries gaining influence in politics to even the music world, it is prevalent. 90-95% of US stocks are owned by the wealthiest 10%. I believe there's a fair bit of statistics on the concentration of business ownership. Many go to work for their minimum wage of $7.25, meanwhile their president takes $53 million worth of golf trips in 2025 ytd (taxpayer money).

The median US household income is just above $78,000 USD. Meanwhile the below figure shows the millions of dollars in operational costs to maintain a single aircraft for various models. Those B2 stealth bombers also cost $2 billion a pop and they have more than 20... just because. Despite this a third of the country seem to think the answer is cutting medicaid and giving tax breaks for the rich.

Under the bill, the average family earning less than $50,000 would get under $300 in tax cuts in 2027, less than $1 a day, while the average tax filer earning $1 million or more a year would receive about $90,000 in tax breaks.

One things for certain is that Trump will push the pendulum so hard that people may start to realise socialism = communism is just a remnant of cold-war propaganda and fear mongering.

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