[Resurrected] Twent Barrett - Worst coach in history?

[Terry Zarsoff]

I did want to be a fly on the wall when Trent turned up at Parra for the meeting with King Gutho

And Shaun Lane. Joey Lussick says ‘Hi!’ too.

He left a path of destruction.

Such a f-cking idiot.

 

[Ron E. Gibbs]

And Shaun Lane. Plus Joey Lussick says ‘Hi!’ too.

He left a path of destruction.

Such a f-cking idiot.

Agree, but was Barrett ever really in charge of anything here? Seems like they never removed his L plates and that others in the "brains trust" were more responsible for those recruitment/retention decisions.

 

[Terry Zarsoff]

Agree, but was Barrett ever really in charge of anything here? Seems like they never removed his L plates and that others in the "brains trust" were more responsible for those recruitment/retention decisions.

Possibly. Although Fulton was dirty about Trent letting Blake Green go.

 

[Rocky]

If Twent doesn't get the Eels job (unlikely given what happened v Souths) he will never coach first grade again.

 

[DUFFMAN]

Next season when Parra climb up the ladder under a new coach Trent will pump his chest out and take credit for Parra climbing the ladder.

 

[The Who]

If Twent doesn't get the Eels job (unlikely given what happened v Souths) he will never coach first grade again.

That's what we thought after his Manly escapade.
There are always opportunities for coaches in the NRL. It's the best career to be in; fail, get a large payout, get re-hired by another club who don't do their due diligence, fail, get a payout, repeat....

 

[Rocky]

O

That's what we thought after his Manly escapade.
There are always opportunities for coaches in the NRL. It's the best career to be in; fail, get a large payout, get re-hired by another club who don't do their due diligence, fail, get a payout, repeat....

often these guys get a second chance - but his card will be well and truly marked by now.

 

[Tragic Eagle]

Yeah Nah

 

[eaglebuzz]

Agree, but was Barrett ever really in charge of anything here? Seems like they never removed his L plates and that others in the "brains trust" were more responsible for those recruitment/retention decisions.

At least they put him in charge of the lawn chairs

 

[NREagle]

And Shaun Lane. Joey Lussick says ‘Hi!’ too.

He left a path of destruction.

Such a f-cking idiot.

I did find it interesting that Lane started the match on the bench over the weekend. Wonder how that relationship is going.....

 

[LeonardCohen]

Possibly. Although Fulton was dirty about Trent letting Blake Green go.

I heard we didn’t let Green go per se, he agitated for a release and stopped turning up to training etc. it was really strange the way it went down. Manly definitely wanted to keep him.

I also agree with another post above that suggests Fulton was responsible for letting so many good players go at the time.

In saying all that, Baz is still a dud!

 

[LeonardCohen]

Can we change the poll options to
1. Yeah
2. Yeah nah
?

 

[Terry Zarsoff]

I heard we didn’t let Green go per se, he agitated for a release and stopped turning up to training etc. it was really strange the way it went down. Manly definitely wanted to keep him.

I also agree with another post above that suggests Fulton was responsible for letting so many good players go at the time.

In saying all that, Baz is still a dud!

You’re right, Green did do that.

However that may have been because of the Mitchell Pearce saga, with Mitch ultimately deciding to join Newcastle instead.

Blind Freddy could see that Manly made the finals in 2017 largely off the back of Green’s tactical nous. They should have gone all out to retain him.

Who knows, he might now be the Manly coach in waiting, rather than Newcastle’s.

 

[Terry Zarsoff]

One of the perplexing (unless you assume that Parramatta’s board is comprised of idiots) issues surrounding Barrett picking up an assistant coaching gig there, were the Gutherson and Lane imbroglios.

Apparently there were no ‘What if?’ or ‘So what?’ moments, re: the potential for him to become the head coach and whether he could ‘smooth the waters’. Perhaps with Lussick too.

You never know, he may turn it around.

Of course we shouldn’t get too comfortable. The second anniversary of ‘Jerseygate’ is fast approaching.

 

[lsz]

You lot are acting like he has just turned up - he has been there for almost 2 years already.

As dysfunctional a club as parra is do you honestly think they would have kept him around if there were significant issues? Especially as Arthur was seen as a "players" coach why would he jeopardise that by hiring an assistant players hated

 

[LeonardCohen]

If anyone can see behind the Telegraph paywall, I'd love to know what Barrett apparently said to Maguire's face about his coaching methods. Here's a two time premiership winning coach receiving advice from one of the biggest dunce's to ever pick up a clipboard.

 

[Ron E. Gibbs]

If anyone can see behind the Telegraph paywall, I'd love to know what Barrett apparently said to Maguire's face about his coaching methods. Here's a two time premiership winning coach receiving advice from one of the biggest dunce's to ever pick up a clipboard.

That dunce is apparently now a "grand final winning coach".

Michael Maguire’s hard-line training methods were questioned by his assistant coach​

As Michael Maguire watched his Broncos charges sweat under the stifling Queensland sun, assistant Trent Barrett pleaded with him to end the madness. Then came the head coach’s response.

By Dean Ritchie

During a stinking hot Queensland day after an intense NRL pre-season training session, Broncos assistant Trent Barrett pulled head coach Michael Maguire aside and said: “You’re going to kill one of these blokes.”

Maguire, who was questioned this season over his gruelling training methods, told Barrett: “It’s amazing what the human body can do.”

Seven months later, after a famous NRL grand final win, Barrett told this masthead: “Without the work the players did earlier this year, we probably wouldn’t have survived the last month. ‘Madge’ was proved to be right.”

Maguire was condemned - yet later vindicated - for his demanding early-season army camps and spew buckets.

At one point, even Barrett queried Maguire’s training approach.

Brisbane overcame a 16 point deficit against Canberra in week one of the finals to win before pulling back Penrith’s 14 point lead in a preliminary final and then a further ten points in the grand final.

Now Brisbane players spoke glowingly about Maguire’s torrid training techniques after winning Sunday’s NRL epic grand final over Melbourne.

“There was no secret motto or potion, they just worked hard,” Barrett said. “There were times in the pre-season when I said to Madge: ‘You’re going to kill one of these blokes.’

“We had a couple of really hot days but they got through it. ‘Madge’ always says how amazed you can be at what the body can do. It’s all in your mind.

“It was proved that it works. ‘Madge’ was proved to be right. You can be surprised what your body can do – it’s all mental.

“They trained hard and that is what ‘Madge’ is used to – that’s his background coming from Melbourne. Without the work those players did earlier in the year, we probably don’t survive the last month.

“For us to go so deep in games as we did, and the 94 minutes against Canberra, probably proved what you’ve got to do. And they were repaid for doing it in the end.

“I learned a lot of Madge, particularly over the past month. He is very, very good at knowing what buttons to push and getting teams and individuals up for big games. Ultimately, it’s not what we did, it’s what the players did. I wouldn’t expect next year’s pre-season to be any easier.”

Maguire was unconcerned about the criticism he attracted this season.

“I’ve been questioned all my life as a coach,” Maguire said. “It doesn’t really worry me. These blokes bought into exactly what I’ve seen work at the clubs I’ve been with.

“They didn’t flinch, they didn’t go away from it. As much as people talk about it, the players stayed the course and now they (are premiers) off the back of all the work they have done. It’s a credit to them.”

Talking about the army camps, star fullback Reece Walsh added: “We were in the trenches together as a team, running through the bush.”

After coaching Canterbury, Manly and Parramatta, Barrett can now attest to being a grand final winning coach.

And he was full of praise for his players, saying: “I’m just over the moon for the players and club. And to do it in the fashion that we did over the past three weeks, where we looked dead and buried for a while, is testament to how far they have come as a group.

“We always had belief in the second half (of the grand final), particularly when you’ve got someone like Ezra (Mam) sitting on the bench, a player you can bring in who can speed up the way we play. We knew we had him up our sleeve.

“They (Storm) only had two middles on their bench at one point so we knew it would turn around in the second half. But the defensive plays from Reece Walsh in the second half … they were probably more important than the tries he sets up.

“They are a wonderful bunch of players and I’m so happy for them. They are young outside of ‘Reyno’ (Adam Reynolds) and Benny (Hunt) so their best is still in front of them.

“A big turning point was when we lost out two halves (Reynolds and Mam) in Melbourne (on August 7). We lost that game 22-2 and we lost Ezra, ‘Reyno’ and also Selwyn (Cobbo) in one play.

“Everyone wrote us off completely but that’s when we knuckled down and started playing good footy with a bit of belief.”

 

[LeonardCohen]

That dunce is apparently now a "grand final winning coach".

Michael Maguire’s hard-line training methods were questioned by his assistant coach​

As Michael Maguire watched his Broncos charges sweat under the stifling Queensland sun, assistant Trent Barrett pleaded with him to end the madness. Then came the head coach’s response.

By Dean Ritchie

During a stinking hot Queensland day after an intense NRL pre-season training session, Broncos assistant Trent Barrett pulled head coach Michael Maguire aside and said: “You’re going to kill one of these blokes.”

Maguire, who was questioned this season over his gruelling training methods, told Barrett: “It’s amazing what the human body can do.”

Seven months later, after a famous NRL grand final win, Barrett told this masthead: “Without the work the players did earlier this year, we probably wouldn’t have survived the last month. ‘Madge’ was proved to be right.”

Maguire was condemned - yet later vindicated - for his demanding early-season army camps and spew buckets.

At one point, even Barrett queried Maguire’s training approach.

Brisbane overcame a 16 point deficit against Canberra in week one of the finals to win before pulling back Penrith’s 14 point lead in a preliminary final and then a further ten points in the grand final.

Now Brisbane players spoke glowingly about Maguire’s torrid training techniques after winning Sunday’s NRL epic grand final over Melbourne.

“There was no secret motto or potion, they just worked hard,” Barrett said. “There were times in the pre-season when I said to Madge: ‘You’re going to kill one of these blokes.’

“We had a couple of really hot days but they got through it. ‘Madge’ always says how amazed you can be at what the body can do. It’s all in your mind.

“It was proved that it works. ‘Madge’ was proved to be right. You can be surprised what your body can do – it’s all mental.

“They trained hard and that is what ‘Madge’ is used to – that’s his background coming from Melbourne. Without the work those players did earlier in the year, we probably don’t survive the last month.

“For us to go so deep in games as we did, and the 94 minutes against Canberra, probably proved what you’ve got to do. And they were repaid for doing it in the end.

“I learned a lot of Madge, particularly over the past month. He is very, very good at knowing what buttons to push and getting teams and individuals up for big games. Ultimately, it’s not what we did, it’s what the players did. I wouldn’t expect next year’s pre-season to be any easier.”

Maguire was unconcerned about the criticism he attracted this season.

“I’ve been questioned all my life as a coach,” Maguire said. “It doesn’t really worry me. These blokes bought into exactly what I’ve seen work at the clubs I’ve been with.

“They didn’t flinch, they didn’t go away from it. As much as people talk about it, the players stayed the course and now they (are premiers) off the back of all the work they have done. It’s a credit to them.”

Talking about the army camps, star fullback Reece Walsh added: “We were in the trenches together as a team, running through the bush.”

After coaching Canterbury, Manly and Parramatta, Barrett can now attest to being a grand final winning coach.

And he was full of praise for his players, saying: “I’m just over the moon for the players and club. And to do it in the fashion that we did over the past three weeks, where we looked dead and buried for a while, is testament to how far they have come as a group.

“We always had belief in the second half (of the grand final), particularly when you’ve got someone like Ezra (Mam) sitting on the bench, a player you can bring in who can speed up the way we play. We knew we had him up our sleeve.

“They (Storm) only had two middles on their bench at one point so we knew it would turn around in the second half. But the defensive plays from Reece Walsh in the second half … they were probably more important than the tries he sets up.

“They are a wonderful bunch of players and I’m so happy for them. They are young outside of ‘Reyno’ (Adam Reynolds) and Benny (Hunt) so their best is still in front of them.

“A big turning point was when we lost out two halves (Reynolds and Mam) in Melbourne (on August 7). We lost that game 22-2 and we lost Ezra, ‘Reyno’ and also Selwyn (Cobbo) in one play.

“Everyone wrote us off completely but that’s when we knuckled down and started playing good footy with a bit of belief.”

There are lots of premiership winning coaches now, apparently?!

I can't believe the media are trying to spin this Broncos premiership like it was some sort of coaching masterclass; they've got the most stacked roster in the league. They added a million dollar playmaker and SOO player in Hunt, on an early release from St George as just another depth signing. Ezra Mam played on the bench in the GF; c'mon!

 

[TheSoaringEagle2023]

There are lots of premiership winning coaches now, apparently?!

I can't believe the media are trying to spin this Broncos premiership like it was some sort of coaching masterclass; they've got the most stacked roster in the league. They added a million dollar playmaker and SOO player in Hunt, on an early release from St George as just another depth signing. Ezra Mam played on the bench in the GF; c'mon!

Plus the guaranteed Friday night slots.
I think a bit hard to write off Madge's credentials. 1 Super League title and 2 NRL Titles with 2 different clubs isn't something to sneeze at.

 

[LeonardCohen]

Plus the guaranteed Friday night slots.
I think a bit hard to write off Madge's credentials. 1 Super League title and 2 NRL Titles with 2 different clubs isn't something to sneeze at.

I think he got lucky with this Broncos roster. He didn't suddenly remember how to coach after his time at the Tigers. He got a great roster and fair play to him, was good enough to get them up for matches, but the amount of natural talent and athleticism in that roster is scary. I think most of the current NRL coaches could do something special with that roster.