Post-Game Discussion Dragons v Manly [Round 4, 2024]

[Uk eagle]

Just saying but we looked a far better side late last year when Koula played fullback

We can't talk about dropping Tom after one bad performance. He will be his own biggest critic and will turn it around. We do need to find a way to get Koula into space though, he is wasted getting a pass while he's stood still with a man marking him

 

[HK_Eagle]

We can't talk about dropping Tom after one bad performance. He will be his own biggest critic and will turn it around. We do need to find a way to get Koula into space though, he is wasted getting a pass while he's stood still with a man marking him

It is criminal how we under-utilise Koula, and how we do not have structured play with Ola hitting the line at speed.

 

[Sheikheagle]

It is criminal how we under-utilise Koula, and how we do not have structured play with Ola hitting the line at speed.

How frustrating is it to see Ola repeatedly get the ball flat footed.

 

[Sheikheagle]

Seibs didn’t make the presser

 

[ALinda]

Interesting stats (depending on which ones you read): Jake/DCE/Croker highest tacklers and Haumole/Paseka/Tom/Koula highest run metres. Unusual...

 

[Waz13]

That was the manly way
NOT

Well when it comes to playing the dragons away it kinda was the manly way.

 

[Waz13]

Panthers licking there lips
They will destroy our edges
I can cop a loss but when your team doesn't even try and produce that effort
Wow

Our right edge defence looks like breaking every time a team go there. And it always seems to start with how dce reacts.

 

[HoldenV8]

To me that loss was 100% on the players and not the coach.

Seibold wasn't out there dropping the ball like it was a bar of soap for about 70 minutes. He wasn't out there trying to score off of every play or throwing the ball to no one.

And what's he supposed to do, drag everyone who made mistakes?? There are only 8 interchanges and 4 bench players.......and if you saw Blacktown today you'd know that depth is a big issue.

For mine we just had one of those days you should never actually forget so you can learn from it and use it as motivation next time. We just had a really poor day out, simple.

 

[wedgetail eagle]

Commentators ask DCE what happened

DCE “yeah i dunno………”

silence

DCE should’ve started swearing.
Throws the Interviewer right off, they stray from the subject under scrutiny.

 

[Ron E. Gibbs]

Our right edge defence looks like breaking every time a team go there. And it always seems to start with how dce reacts.

Yeah, it would be negligent of an opposition coach not to instruct his players to run at that side of our defence all day long. It’s as close to guaranteed points as you’re ever going to get in the NRL.

Not that our other side is much better. We can’t defend kicks We can't defend shifts. We can’t defend the short ball. Basically, we can’t defend. So unless we are consistently scoring points, we are doomed.

We scored one then let in four. You are never going to win a game of footy like that.

 

[eagleron]

We were terrible but they played like the Bulldogs/Terry Lambs years offside all day and refs did nothing. The teams were never apart enough and that’s why there was so many dropped balls by both teams.
None the less good teams overcome these things , and sadly we are not a good team yet.
We’ll get goods next week v Panthers

We're gonna get flogged next week, we've got no discipline, no obvious game plan and no urgency in either attack or defence. I'm getting the distinct impression that I'll never see another Manly premiership in my lifetime, my time is running out and It's depressing. After Vegas and then the Rorters I was bubbling with confidence but given the past two weeks and especially today's pathetic concession to a very ordinary Dragoons I'm sorry but this team and those whose role it is to prepare them are having a lend of us. I'm not saying that Hasler would have us playing any better, he had more than enough time to do so and failed but im beginning to think that Seibold also lacks the ability to bring out the best in this side, a side that is stacked with enough talent to win the pennant. I'm somewhat distressed and I know it's early days but recent history has me thinking that it's just more of the same. Having vented all this crap I fully expect that by next week I'll be over my depression and back cheering the Eagles on win lose or draw although with an understanding that we won't be fighting it out come early October

 

[HK_Eagle]

Turbo was a weird case today.

He started with that amazing pass for the try assist, and he was running with some real venom early on. I mean, he runs well into gaps and pokes his head through as a standard every week, but his first few early runs were viscious.

Then there was the bomb he failed to contest, and a couple of errors. Suddenly, his whole mental psyche seemed to crumble before our eyes. I don’t recall seeing such a mental capitulation in a superstar within a single game before. Turbo looked mentally scarred and fragile for the rest of the game. I hope he’s ok.

 

[Sheikheagle]

Turbo was a weird case today.

He started with that amazing pass for the try assist, and he was running with some real venom early on. I mean, he runs well into gaps and pokes his head through as a standard every week, but his first few early runs were viscious.

Then there was the bomb he failed to contest, and a couple of errors. Suddenly, his whole mental psyche seemed to crumble before our eyes. I don’t recall seeing such a mental capitulation in a superstar within a single game before. Turbo looked mentally scarred and fragile for the rest of the game. I hope he’s ok.

It was Bizarre it was like Greg Norman’s collapse in the 1996 US Masters. Train wreck

 

[HK_Eagle]

It was Bizarre it was like Greg Norman’s collapse in the 1996 US Masters. Train wreck

I mean, Turbo has always been a confidence player, and it’s been noted often enough his tendency to drop the head when things don’t go our way…. But that… today, that was something else.

 

[Eagle 1]

Nathan Brown comes on and starts sideways ball playing. WTF is that sh*t !!! His job should've been hitup hard and quick play the balls. Was this the tactics from the coach. Surely he didn't decide to do this on his own. Absolute garbage tactics that didn't change all game.

Also, he doesn't have a lot of leg drive, so while he smashes into the line he doesn't bend it, with little to no post contact meters.

 

[Jethro]

From Post #1

FULL TIME SCORE

Dragons: 20
Manly: 12

Pic: Manly Warringah Sea Eagles Facebook Page


Team Victory Song:

Pressers:

Sea Eagles: Round 4 | Sea Eagles

Daly Cherry-Evans and Anthony Seibold chat to the media after their Round 4 clash against the Dragons

www.seaeagles.com.au

Sea Eagles: Round 4

Daly Cherry-Evans and Anthony Seibold chat to the media after their Round 4 clash against the Dragons

www.nrl.com

'Pretty average...': Seibold opens up | Fox Sports Videos

NRL: Manly Sea Eagles coach Anthony Seibold spoke to the media following their round 4 defeat to the Dragons.

www.foxsports.com.au

Dragons: Round 4

Ben Hunt and Shane Flanagan chat to the media after their Round 4 clash against the Sea Eagles

www.nrl.com

Hunt & Flanagan discuss Manly game-plan | Fox Sports Videos

NRL: St George Illawarra Dragons coach Shane Flanagan spoke to the media following their impressive round 4 display against the Manly Sea Eagles.

www.foxsports.com.au

Post Match Interviews: TBA



Match Report:

Sea Eagles go down to Dragons in dour struggle

Manly Warringah Sea Eagles suffered a disappointing 20-12 loss to St George-Illawarra Dragons in Wollongong tonight in round four of the Telstra Premiership.

www.seaeagles.com.au

Sloan sizzles as Dragons put Sea Eagles to the sword

The brilliance of Ben Hunt and a blistering double to Tyrell Sloan led the Dragons to a 20-12 win over the Sea Eagles at WIN Stadium on Saturday.

www.nrl.com

Game Stats Review:

FULL TIME: Dragons vs Sea Eagles

Saturday 30th March 2024, 5:30pm at WIN Stadium.

www.zerotackle.com

Dragons v Sea Eagles

St. George Illawarra Dragons versus Manly-Warringah Sea Eagles match centre includes live scores and updates. Includes official live player and team stats. Run metres, fantasy points scoring.

www.nrl.com

Match Highlights:

Dragons v Sea Eagles – Round 4, 2024

The St George Illawarra Dragons and the Manly Sea Eagles face off in Round 4 of the 2024 NRL Telstra Premiership

www.nrl.com

Extended Match Highlights:

Dragons v Sea Eagles – Round 4, 2024

The St George Illawarra Dragons and the Manly Sea Eagles face off in Round 4 of the 2024 NRL Telstra Premiership

www.nrl.com

Full Match Replay Link:

Full Match Replay: Dragons v Sea Eagles – Round 4, 2024

The St George Illawarra Dragons and the Manly Sea Eagles face off in Round 4 of the 2024 NRL Telstra Premiership

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Manly Tries:

Tolutau Koula Try

Tolutau Koula Try

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Haumole Olakau'atu Try

Haumole Olakau'atu Try

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Game Pics & Video Clips:

Tom Trbojevic stops Ravalawa

Tom Trbojevic stops Ravalawa

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"You breathe on him, he falls over!" | Fox Sports Videos

NRL: Dragons centre Moses Suli has become the latest victim of the bunker as his try was ruled out due to an inside run by Luciano Leilua.

www.foxsports.com.au

Press Print & Video Articles:

Dragons star’s transformation under Flanno; Turbo’s off night in Manly loss: What we learned

Dragons star’s transformation under Flanno; Turbo sums up woeful Manly: What we learned

www.foxsports.com.au

Huge upset in Wollongong as Dragons stun Sea Eagles

It was looking bleak after conceding 84 points during the previous fortnight, but the Dragons have hit back with a surprise win against the Sea Eagles.

www.smh.com.au

'Lazy': Turbo's awful brain fade shocks legend

'Just wasn't thinking'

wwos.nine.com.au

'Clean it up': Dragons star facing fine for hair pull

As Red V claim shock upset over Manly

wwos.nine.com.au

Sea Eagles horror show of errors gifts victory to Dragons​

‘Shocking’: Unthinkable Turbo act says it all​

Sea Eagles Judiciary News:

• No Manly players were placed on report during the game.
• Luke Brooks (Sea Eagles) has been charged post-match by the Match Review Committee with a Grade 1 Careless High Tackle following Saturday's game. With this being his 1st Offence, he faces a $1000 fine with an early guilty plea or a $1500 fine if he chooses to fight it and loses.

* Update *
Luke Brooks has taken the early Guilty plea and has to pay a $1000 fine.

Judiciary Report: Olakau'atu, DCE facing bans for Lane tackle

Manly pair Haumole Olakau'atu and Daly Cherry-Evans are both facing bans after they were charged with a Dangerous Throw on Eels forward Shaun Lane.

www.nrl.com

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[Clivus00]

Ben T sucks. He is so blunt in attack. No power, speed or offload in his runs. Jake offers nothing in attack as well.
Unless our centres receive the ball with space, they don’t make any breaks or metres

 

[Cliffy's Jockstrap]

Wow having had a few drinks out I will just say tonight that the Dragons were sh*t and Manly was x2 worse, just Wow what a game.

Me and my lady were down at a local and laughing ourselves silly, for what else was there to do? It was just ridiculous.

Honestly cannot see how Penrith do not put 40 on us next week regardless of who they put on the field or leave out.

 

[Rorz]

We're gonna get flogged next week, we've got no discipline, no obvious game plan and no urgency in either attack or defence. I'm getting the distinct impression that I'll never see another Manly premiership in my lifetime, my time is running out and It's depressing. After Vegas and then the Rorters I was bubbling with confidence but given the past two weeks and especially today's pathetic concession to a very ordinary Dragoons I'm sorry but this team and those whose role it is to prepare them are having a lend of us. I'm not saying that Hasler would have us playing any better, he had more than enough time to do so and failed but im beginning to think that Seibold also lacks the ability to bring out the best in this side, a side that is stacked with enough talent to win the pennant. I'm somewhat distressed and I know it's early days but recent history has me thinking that it's just more of the same. Having vented all this crap I fully expect that by next week I'll be over my depression and back cheering the Eagles on win lose or draw although with an understanding that we won't be fighting it out come early October

Seibold’s narrative in his press conference today lacked conviction and that’s exactly how they played today.
God help us next week!

 

[HoldenV8]

Turbo was a weird case today.

He started with that amazing pass for the try assist, and he was running with some real venom early on. I mean, he runs well into gaps and pokes his head through as a standard every week, but his first few early runs were viscious.

Then there was the bomb he failed to contest, and a couple of errors. Suddenly, his whole mental psyche seemed to crumble before our eyes. I don’t recall seeing such a mental capitulation in a superstar within a single game before. Turbo looked mentally scarred and fragile for the rest of the game. I hope he’s ok.

By the last 20 minutes he was starting to get back involved with some good runs that almost became breaks where he was standing looking to offload. But we were just that poor today that barely anything ever came of them.

But his confidence did start to return by the end. It was noticeable. At least, I noticed it.....