No need to run them down if you don't allow the line break to start with
Parks n Harper - you have competition
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madmax
Bencher
Tell that to the other youngsters playing for other teams in the same age bracket that are holding their own in 1st Grade.....Staines, Tago, Savage, Cobbo, Niu, Taffe, Suualii, Walker, Walsh, Sloan, Ramsey, Penisini, Campbell, Fidow....i can go on!
Dont knock the razzle dazzle boys feathered friend
Tom Turbo Is all Show and razzle dazzle and he was leading our winning ways in 2021
Once they shut him down The quite achievers like Parker were very quite
The razzle dazzle try of the year where Parker was out of the pace in defence and attack
Slow is a liability and Speed Kills
the fact is .....Un Upgrade in the centres can only improve our team
Garrick, DCE, Turbo Razzle dazzle Manly boys in action producing the best try of the year
The Razzle dazzle Manly Sea eagles were meant to fly and fly they did
Enjoy !
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47MVEagle
Bencher
Tom isn't just razzle dazzle, he puts a lot of hard work in too.
Des is pretty loyal to his players...and always has been
47MVEagle
Bencher
But he should throw Parker & Croker under the bus because you think they're slow & not dynamic.
Sometimes I wonder if you actually remember what you post.
Must admit, I've seen this countless times, and never tire of it. When Garrick threw his pass, he was just about spent, he nearly stumbled to the turf...lol.
JakeyB789
Reserve Grader
I know people like Parker and he is a solid player but let's be honest here. I don't think I've ever seen him make a line break unless it's Turbo or Foz putting him over for a try. When the opposition is putting all their focus on Tom we need someone else who can break the line and Koula looks like he can do that. Tuipulotu was impressive too and I think he's a lot closer to regular first grade than we may think.
Harper is in a similar boat but given he has only played one full year and has such a good combination with Saab he is worth persisting with. We've had 5 years of Parker now and what we see is what we get. He would make a great backup/depth player but the time to win a comp is now and our chances would improve tenfold with a strike player like Koula in there.
Harper is in a similar boat but given he has only played one full year and has such a good combination with Saab he is worth persisting with. We've had 5 years of Parker now and what we see is what we get. He would make a great backup/depth player but the time to win a comp is now and our chances would improve tenfold with a strike player like Koula in there.
Steady as she goes. Croker and Parker are both very important members of this squad. Depth is key.
47MVEagle
Bencher
Albert Hopoate...
Saw Albert run out for the Raiders on the weekend trial, looks to have bulked up quite a bit, didn't really see anything from him. He'll be a fringe 1st grader, with a smattering of appearances at best for Canberra.
Parker is 'Mr Reliable' and you know exactly what you are going to get with him.
Parker may not be the fastest over 15m, which is where breaks are typically made by centres however, he is safe and he brings the ball back strongly and always puts his body on the line. Close to the try line, he runs great lines to either break the line or draw in defenders allowing a pass to Garrick from Foz, Schu or Turbo.
He is someone Des doesn't have anxiety about, as his defence is tough, he doesn't take a backward step and reads the play well, and you just have to recall that huge hit he put on Sivo, that ended Sivo's game against Parra.
Parker is a 'big boy', as I was on the table next to him at Hugos on Saturday night, when he celebrated his birthday and he was still sore from the game in his shoulder.
In my opinion, Parker could definitely move to a backrow position however, given our depth there, he's more suited to where he is. He may not score us a long range try however, he's unlikely to let any in either.
Parker may not be the fastest over 15m, which is where breaks are typically made by centres however, he is safe and he brings the ball back strongly and always puts his body on the line. Close to the try line, he runs great lines to either break the line or draw in defenders allowing a pass to Garrick from Foz, Schu or Turbo.
He is someone Des doesn't have anxiety about, as his defence is tough, he doesn't take a backward step and reads the play well, and you just have to recall that huge hit he put on Sivo, that ended Sivo's game against Parra.
Parker is a 'big boy', as I was on the table next to him at Hugos on Saturday night, when he celebrated his birthday and he was still sore from the game in his shoulder.
In my opinion, Parker could definitely move to a backrow position however, given our depth there, he's more suited to where he is. He may not score us a long range try however, he's unlikely to let any in either.
Shoe1
Journey Man
I agree up to a point, but they are mostly in bottom 8 teams. Taffe looked good, but Walsh for example made lots of spectacular errors to balance out his brilliance.
For some of them a bit more experience wouldn’t go astray before being expected to win consistently in first grade. Young guys can be spectacular bottom 8 players, but I prefer manly to be a top 2 team.
Suaallii is a myth.
40 nil
It's only a game ...
For the foreseeable future, I'd tend to keep Parker as the left hand side works very well in attack & defence. However, I would like to see a speedy strike centre in the side to take the burden off Turbo in attack. Harper's defence is his strength, but he doesn't offer much in the way of line breaks or try assists (stats show just 9 line breaks & 4 try assists in 2021). Thus, if Koula develops NRL standard defence, I'd like to see him usurp Harper's position in 2022. He has the potential to be a true match winner, esp. with good ball from DCE, Turbo & Haumole.
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47MVEagle
Bencher
Yeah I saw him & thought the same, he looks a lot bigger.
40 nil
It's only a game ...
I don't really know, but I think Harper & Parker would be @ $300k. I expect that Koula would attract the biggest offers for a long term contract, esp. after he debuts in the NRL. Fortunately, we have signed him till the end of 2024.
Would be hard to blame him if he has ambitions of playing NRL next year, there is a fair queue now at Manly.
StuBoot
Bencher
It's all well and good to run them down but as we saw last year v The Cows Saab ran down the Hammer(?) but still couldn't make the tackle.
It's funny, the Youtube highlights packages with the hip hop soundtracks rarely show the next gen outside backs making any tackles.
Just on that, I don't recall seeing Parker or Harper's Youtube highlights yet here they are playing regular first grade..
Remember the hype of Suli the wrecking ball?
He was one of our first choice centres last year, got injured and couldn't get his spot back because of the hack that is Harper.
Yes, it would be nice to have speed to burn across the backline but that's the beauty of Rugby League, the unfashionables get to play on the same field as the super stars.
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