John Hopoate Blocked By The NRL

[Eelectric]

What i meant was how many other clubs would welcome close inspection of all their employees asst coaches etc right down to jnr reps. I would suggest a couple of colourful characters may be found.

@Woodsie, You're right, but I think this is more a case of a biased pseduo investigation against J.H. than any targeted biased investigation against Manly.

He's not exactly everybody's cup of tea. He's not mine.

Maybe he's involved in some criminal activity, as implied , I don't know , but he hasn't been formally charged for anything at all, yet right ? So really, he's innocent in the eyes of the law , right <wink, wink> ?

One thing, he's definitely gulity of , is being on the wrong side of the wrong people in the right places.

Putting aside my own prejudices, one could argue, his character has been publically bullied, bashed & poked, based on an image, past anti social behaviour & prejudices of people in positions of public trust. Irony anyone ?

It's easier to move a thousand people through their prejudices than it is to move one through reason.

 

[mjb136]

If he satisfied the working with children requirements, why now has this dossier been handed to the nrl integrity unit by the police and why wasnt it flagged off earlier in the process?
Whatever is in the report must be juicy.

 

[Eelectric]

Whatever is in the report must be juicy.

Hope you're right, otherwise this whole saga is farcial.

 

[Shoe1]

I suspect the dossier is akin to senator mccarthy's briefcase, and the Blair weapons of mass destruction report, or possibly the Kpmg assessment of council mergers. Oft quoted and referred to but not available for public scrutiny.

And I love how it's now a dossier. Did you coin that one @mjb136 ? Just wait, the papers will start calling it a dossier soon too.

 

[mjb136]

I suspect the dossier is akin to senator mccarthy's briefcase, and the Blair weapons of mass destruction report, or possibly the Kpmg assessment of council mergers. Oft quoted and referred to but not available for public scrutiny.

And I love how it's now a dossier. Did you coin that one @mjb136 ? Just wait, the papers will start calling it a dossier soon too.

Guilty

 

[Eelectric]

I suspect the dossier is akin to senator mccarthy's briefcase, and the Blair weapons of mass destruction report, or possibly the Kpmg assessment of council mergers. Oft quoted and referred to but not available for public scrutiny.

And I love how it's now a dossier. Did you coin that one @mjb136 ? Just wait, the papers will start calling it a dossier soon too.

Yeah, hope the "Dossier" (good one) is more John Gotti than Shane Warne.

Still, something is fishy. Police, responsible for uphelding the law , spending so much time, trying to undermine the employment of an NRL junior coach ? Coaching is a legal enterprise - non-criminal.

If this was a bona fide criminal investigation, how does that help them put the criminal away or on trial ?

Maybe, the criminal team are hoping that it will tip Hoppa over the edge he'll do something criminally ourageous & they can finally nab him. Maybe they see Hoppa as a criminal jihadist trying to influence his flock of younger impressional youth ?

The cynic in me says it reeks of a personal agenda, more than any bona-fide criminal case.

 

[SeaEagleRock8]

Police, responsible for uphelding the law

Well its a bit narrower than that, according to detective inspector from the organised crime unit, Wayne Walpole: "Our squad is there to protect the integrity of casino operations."

Is it just me or does the phrase 'integrity of casino operations' sound somehow... wrong?

 

[Ronmonster]

The Police and the NRL should put up or shut up. Where is the natural Justice here? The Police can make an allegation, the NRL Act on it by threatening the club to do its dirty work with a threat of fines and loss of points on its first grade team hanging over it head and Hoopa has no right of appeal. Just does not sound right or just.

 

[Eelectric]

Well its a bit narrower than that, according to detective inspector from the organised crime unit Wayne Walpole: "Our squad is there to protect the integrity of casino operations."

Is it just me or does the phrase 'integrity of casino operations' sound somehow... wrong?

Only if you say it out loud.

 

[Eelectric]

The Police and the NRL should put up or shut up. Where is the natural Justice here? The Police can make an allegation, the NRL Act on it by threatening the club to do its dirty work with a threat of fines and loss of points on its first grade team hanging over it head and Hoopa has no right of appeal. Just does not sound right or just.

Jezuz, an Eels & Eagles supporter agreeing on something. What is the world coming to ?

 

[Shoe1]

There is no logic here at all. So it seems if a person has supposed links to organised crime then the punishment is to bar the person from an unrelated job, and fine their employer.

 

[MadMarcus]

Maybe the whole thing is a plot by Manly to expose Greenberg as incompetent...

 

[HoldenV8]

Maybe the whole thing is a plot by Manly to expose Greenberg as incompetent...

He doesn't need our help to show that he's incompetent

 

[Rex]

There is no logic here at all. So it seems if a person has supposed links to organised crime then the punishment is to bar the person from an unrelated job, and fine their employer.

Ironically, if the allegations cannot be brought to criminal court, then it might be said that the Police and the NRL are taking actions which could potentially force Hopoate into crime. i.e. the Police and NRL may be actively disrupting law and order.

If they are actively denying him access to his legitimate legal paid employment, how does a man who has 10 children support his family?

On the surface this is a major over-reach of Police and NRL powers.
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It's easier to move a thousand people through their prejudices than it is to move one through reason

Catchy quote EE. Who said it?

 

[manlyfan76]

Ironically, if the allegations cannot be brought to criminal court, then it might be said that the Police and the NRL are taking actions which could potentially force Hopoate into crime. i.e. the Police and NRL may be actively disrupting law and order.

If they are actively denying him access to his legitimate legal paid employment, how does a man who has 10 children support his family?

On the surface this is a major over-reach of Police and NRL powers.
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Catchy quote EE. Who said it?

Steve Sharp.

 

[HappilyManly]

Josh Massoud
Development on John Hopoate: ARLC boss John Grant leaves door open for him to coach, but only if @SeaEagles submit a suitable rehab plan.

National Rehab League - apart from Barba*, has any Player actually rehabilitated ?

 

[Eelectric]

Ironically, if the allegations cannot be brought to criminal court, then it might be said that the Police and the NRL are taking actions which could potentially force Hopoate into crime. i.e. the Police and NRL may be actively disrupting law and order.

If they are actively denying him access to his legitimate legal paid employment, how does a man who has 10 children support his family?

On the surface this is a major over-reach of Police and NRL powers.
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Catchy quote EE. Who said it?

@Rex , good question. Lol Actually, forgot, but it originally came from Robert Heinlein. Added a bit of a twist ( but didn't want to pretend it was mine ).

It's a bit of my thing. Love reading & collecting a plethora of quotes, especially the ones leaning towards wisdom & truth.

 

[Rex]

If this isn't a warning to Grant that Greenberg is out of his depth, then I don't know what is.

 

[Eelectric]

Josh Massoud
Development on John Hopoate: ARLC boss John Grant leaves door open for him to coach, but only if @SeaEagles submit a suitable rehab plan.

Translation:
Police Criminal Dossier was b#######.
But it's Still Hoppas fault.
He's the one with a problem.
So that ties up any loose ends (suggesting Police misallocation of resources & misuse of public money). Everyone wins.
Case closed - but we're still watching you Hoppa (rehab).
The End.

 

[Rex]

@Rex , good question. Lol Actually, forgot, but it originally came from Robert Heinlein. Added a bit of a twist ( but didn't want to pretend it was mine ).
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It's a bit of my thing. Love reading & collecting a plethora of quotes, especially the ones leaning towards wisdom & truth.

“You can sway a thousand men by appealing to their prejudices quicker than you can convince one man by logic.” ―Robert A. Heinlein,Revolt in 2100/Methuselah's Children

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