Rd8 Bulldogs v Manly Sea Eagles game day chat thread
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Berkeley_Eagle
Current Status: 24/7 Manly Fan
Jamie Lyon requires 8 more for 100pts scored at ANZ Stadium #nrlcbyman #nrl
No @NRL_Bulldogs Halfback has scored against Manly in a decade #nrlcbyman
@manlyseaeagles has won 6 of their last 7 games at ANZStadium (undefeated since ’09) #nrlcbyman #nrl #HomeAwayFromHome
@manlyseaeagles has defeated the Bulldogs in 7 of their last 10 clashes #nrlcbyman #nrl
@manlyseaeagles require 20 more for 2000pts scored against Canterbury #nrlcbyman
Manly has conceded 7 tries down their left hand side flank (second worst in league) #nrl #nrlcbyman
72% of @BenBarba03 touches in the attacking Half this season have come down the left hand side #nrlcbyman #ToTheLeftToTheLeft
Manly are currently second worst in the league in conceding penalties (45) The Dogs third (44) #nrlcbyman #BlowThatWhistleRef
6 players who appeared in Manly’s last game were not present on Grand Final day 2011 #nrlcbyman #Newbreed #DesWho
@AnthonyWatmough Anthony is poised to surpass Bob Fulton and move within a game of Max Krilich for Manly appearances (213) #nrlcbyman #choc
No @NRL_Bulldogs Halfback has scored against Manly in a decade #nrlcbyman
@manlyseaeagles has won 6 of their last 7 games at ANZStadium (undefeated since ’09) #nrlcbyman #nrl #HomeAwayFromHome
@manlyseaeagles has defeated the Bulldogs in 7 of their last 10 clashes #nrlcbyman #nrl
@manlyseaeagles require 20 more for 2000pts scored against Canterbury #nrlcbyman
Manly has conceded 7 tries down their left hand side flank (second worst in league) #nrl #nrlcbyman
72% of @BenBarba03 touches in the attacking Half this season have come down the left hand side #nrlcbyman #ToTheLeftToTheLeft
Manly are currently second worst in the league in conceding penalties (45) The Dogs third (44) #nrlcbyman #BlowThatWhistleRef
6 players who appeared in Manly’s last game were not present on Grand Final day 2011 #nrlcbyman #Newbreed #DesWho
@AnthonyWatmough Anthony is poised to surpass Bob Fulton and move within a game of Max Krilich for Manly appearances (213) #nrlcbyman #choc
clontaago said:
Nice one Doug....PMSL over that comment!!
Our left ?? Matai and Forans side...little wonder given they have been out for a few games.(although we didn't concede during Panthers game.) Also T-Rex is a LHS dweller, so a lot of disruption all round to defensive patterns on that side. Who runs right hand edges for Dogs ?
OneEyedEagle
Bencher
RE: Rd8 BullScum v Manly Sea Eagles game day chat thread
Can you find Kosher food in Afghanistan.
Berkeley_Eagle said:
Can you find Kosher food in Afghanistan.
Berkeley_Eagle
Current Status: 24/7 Manly Fan
ANZ Stadium, Sydney Olympic Park
Friday 27 April 2012, kickoff 7:45pm
Live TV: Channel 9 NSW/ACT/NT, Gem VIC/TAS/WA/SA
Referees: Shayne Hayne and Brett Suttor; Sideline Officials: Paul Holland and Dan Eastwood; Video Referee: Phil Cooley
Friday 27 April 2012, kickoff 7:45pm
Live TV: Channel 9 NSW/ACT/NT, Gem VIC/TAS/WA/SA
Referees: Shayne Hayne and Brett Suttor; Sideline Officials: Paul Holland and Dan Eastwood; Video Referee: Phil Cooley
Will this be broadcast on radio ?? I will be away from the TV on Friday night.
Berkeley_Eagle
Current Status: 24/7 Manly Fan
You got an iPhone ? If so get the tunein radio app or the 2gb oneChip and Chase said:
Bulldogs: 1. Ben Barba 2. Steve Turner 3. Josh Morris 4. Jonothan Wright 5. Bryson Goodwin 6. Josh Reynolds 7. Kris Keating 8. Aiden Tolman 9. Michael Ennis 10. Sam Kasiano 11. Frank Pritchard 12. Dene Halatau 13. David Stagg
Interchange: 14. James Graham 15. Greg Eastwood 16. Corey Payne 17. Joel Romelo 20. Martin Taupau
Berkeley_Eagle
Current Status: 24/7 Manly Fan
Sea Eagles: 1. Brett Stewart 2. Jorge Taufua 3. Jamie Lyon (c) 4. Steve Matai 5. David Williams 6. Kieran Foran 7. Daly Cherry-Evans 8. Jason King (c) 9. Matt Ballin 10. Brent Kite 11. Anthony Watmough 12. Jamie Buhrer 13. Glenn Stewart
Interchange: 14. Joe Galuvao 15. Dean Whare 16. Nick Skinner 17. Vic Mauro 18. Daniel Harrison 19. Liam Foran
Interchange: 14. Joe Galuvao 15. Dean Whare 16. Nick Skinner 17. Vic Mauro 18. Daniel Harrison 19. Liam Foran
Jatz Crackers
First Grader
1) No Rose.
2) That bench surely wont stay as 14-17
2) That bench surely wont stay as 14-17
SeaEagle007
Reserve Grader
That Bench basically means.. Both Stewarts, Foran and Matai are possibly subject to fitness tests.
Whare can cover either Stewart or Matai, and Liam to cover his Brother
Whare can cover either Stewart or Matai, and Liam to cover his Brother
Earnie the Eagle
Bencher
Berkeley_Eagle said:
Anyone got any news on Ennis, he was in doubt for the game with a knee problem last week.
SeaEagle007
Reserve Grader
Earnie the Eagle said:
Great to see Foran & The Stewart Bros named , their inclusion in the team would make me more confident about a win on Friday night.
I called into Narrabeen on my way home today (5.30pm) and watched part of the training session. Brett & Glenn were training and seemed to be OK , however Foran and Matai were just observing. This may have just been precautionary.
I called into Narrabeen on my way home today (5.30pm) and watched part of the training session. Brett & Glenn were training and seemed to be OK , however Foran and Matai were just observing. This may have just been precautionary.
Berkeley_Eagle said:
Got tunein app, so good to go. Cheers.
Berkeley_Eagle
Current Status: 24/7 Manly Fan
Canterbury Bulldogs v Manly Warringah Sea Eagles
ANZ Stadium
Friday 7.35pm
http://www.nrl.com/bulldogs-v-sea-eagles-preview/tabid/10874/newsid/67057/default.aspx?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
The battle lines for this intriguing Anzac Round clash were drawn a fortnight after last year’s grand final when Des Hasler climbed out of the Manly trench and entered the Bulldogs’ bunker.
No question it’s the game all NRL fans have been waiting for: the confrontation between a ‘turncoat’ general and his former troops. It’s team five versus team eight, with Hasler eyeing a spot in the top four and new Manly coach Geoff Toovey desperate to inflict a defeat on his former mentor (and, as press accounts would have it, still friend) that would give the premiers a buffer inside the top eight.
There’s much at stake, with both sides certain to lose key players to the looming Origin period.
After opening 2012 with three successive wins Canterbury have struggled over the past month, defeating just the lowly Titans and losing to the Knights, Rabbitohs and Storm. However, they were impressive despite falling 12-6 in Melbourne and it took a standout defensive effort from the premiership favourites to hold the Bulldogs at bay during the final 30 minutes.
Meanwhile the Sea Eagles have been guilty of some complacency and inconsistency in recent weeks. They fell to lowly Parramatta in Round 5, pounded the Panthers 30-nil at Brookvale Oval in Round 6, before inexplicably falling 26-14 to the then cellar-dwelling Titans when they returned to Brookvale just five days later.
To make matters worse Tony Williams still has three matches to serve on the sidelines and they enter this game without highly touted prop Darcy Lussick following his one-match ban for a dangerous throw on David Mead.
But in a huge boost, the trio of players who’ve been linked to Hasler at the ’Dogs – Kieran Foran and Stewart brothers Glenn and Brett – are back on deck for this blockbuster.
Brett Stewart replaces Jorge Taufua at the back, with Foran replacing older brother Liam in the No.6, and Vic Mauro makes way for Glenn Stewart. The three displaced players revert to the bench, which numbers six at this stage.
Meanwhile Des Hasler has made two changes: David Stagg will start at lock for Greg Eastwood, with Martin Taupau added to the Bulldogs’ interchange.
Watch Out Bulldogs: Expect Anthony Watmough to fire up, given Des Hasler was the man largely credited with bringing out the best in him as a footballer. And there’s no better occasion: ‘Choc’ will overtake Bob Fulton in the pecking order for appearances in the maroon and white (212). Look for more involvement than his current average 14 runs, two tackle busts and offload a game.
Dean Halatau’s confidence seems to dip every time he faces Manly. The back-rower has played the seasiders 10 times for a return of just two victories and his least impressive game-day stats against any opponent – only seven runs for 58 metres. You can bet Watmough and co will be targeting him with some hard defence early.
Expect Daly Cherry-Evans (seven try assists) to have a huge say in getting fullback Brett Stewart into the opposition in-goal, either from a grubber or a deft inside ball near the Bulldogs’ goalposts.
Danger Sign: Any time the Sea Eagles get inside the Bulldogs’ 10-metre zone it will spell danger – the ’Dogs have conceded 12 of their 18 tries from close range, while the Sea Eagles have scored eight tries from last-ditch passes, the second most by any team.
Watch Out Sea Eagles: The Bulldogs’ runners will need to be contained. Canterbury have scored 14 tries through line-breaks, the most in the comp. That’s bad news for Manly, who have conceded a high seven tries from line-breaks and have also struggled to harness opposition busts, conceding 4.3 line-breaks a game.
Under Des Hasler the Sea Eagles registered just the third-fewest missed tackles in 2011 (30.9) but are now missing the third most (34). Given that statistic you can bet the Bulldogs will fancy their chances of creating opportunities. They boast the two leading tackle-busters in the comp in Josh Morris (41) and Ben Barba (40) and rank third as a team with 36 each game. Also, left centre ‘J-Moz’ ranks third in his position for line-breaks (six) – he’ll test out opposite Jamie Lyon, who’s missed 16 tackles to date (fourth most by a centre). Origin-bound Morris keeps finding the try line, too (five scored).
Manly need to keep a sharp eye on ball-playing prop Sam Kasiano – he leads his position for line-break assists (three).
Danger Sign: Some teams have offloading specialists but the Bulldogs, who rank third in the category with 13.6 every week, have a host of players who can spark second-phase play. In fact they have eight players who make at least one offload a game, with their leading exponents Barba (11), Frank Pritchard (10), Sam Kasiano (10) and Johnathan Wright (10). Back to his best form, Pritchard’s offloads are particularly dangerous – he’s totalled three try assists.
Ben Barba v Brett Stewart: The ANZ Stadium could catch alight if these explosive runners deliver on the night. Barba has scored three tries, made six line-breaks and is averaging 127 metres of territory; but it’s his ability to promote multiple-phase play that’s hurting opponents – he has 11 offloads so far, the second most by a fullback.
Meanwhile it’s only a matter of time before Brett Stewart gets back to his best try-scoring form. ‘Snake’ was Manly’s leading tryscorer in each of the five full seasons he’s played since 2005 – including a massive 22 in 2008. But through five games in 2012 he’s crossed just twice.
This pair’s desperate defence is sure to be a feature too – Barba leads the NRL for try saves (10) with Stewart close behind (nine).
Where It Will Be Won: Whichever side finishes the game with the biggest differential in territory will win – and to date that means the Sea Eagles are decidedly behind the eight ball even before kick-off. Surprisingly the premiers are conceding more metres than they gain each week, returning a -125 metres differential. Meanwhile the Bulldogs, who were the worst in the league last year with a -158 points differential, now finish games with +40 metres difference.
One of the biggest setbacks for the Sea Eagles so far has been their poor kicking accuracy – Daly Cherry-Evans, Kieran Foran and Jamie Lyon have the worst rate of kicking to open space, doing so just 46 per cent of the time. (They need to be avoid charge-downs too – Michael Ennis has notched a league-high two already.)
The History: Played 113; Sea Eagles 60, Bulldogs 48, drawn 5. The Sea Eagles have won five of the past eight clashes between the sides, including both meetings last year. Also, the visitors hold a 4-3 advantage at ANZ Stadium and were rousing 38-4 winners in Round 13 last season.
The Last Time They Met: The Sea Eagles beat the Bulldogs 27-16 at Brookvale Oval in Round 24 last year – but they had to do it the hard way, overcoming a 10-7 halftime deficit.
David Williams opened the scoring in the 14th minute off a neat flick pass from Jamie Lyon before Josh Morris hit back midway through the half, pouncing on a Joel Romelo grubber from close range. Leading 6-4, Daly Cherry-Evans looked to close out the scoring with a field-goal in the 39th minute – but with the clock winding down to the halftime siren Johnathan Wright intercepted a long Glenn Stewart pass and raced 50 metres to score.
It was a more-focused Sea Eagles side in the second stanza. Back-to-back tries to Glenn Stewart (cleaning up a Cherry-Evans cross-field bomb) and Jamie Lyon (off a Cherry-Evans offload) saw them lead 19-10 after 54 minutes – but the Bulldogs hit back immediately through a scrappy try to Ben Barba regathering his own grubber kick that bounced off a host of players before falling sweetly into his hands.
However, the Bulldogs’ challenge ended in the 65th minute when they allowed dummy-half runner Steve Matai to scoot 45 metres to score.
Opposing centres Steve Matai and Jamal Idris were the sounding boards for their teams, each man creating havoc with 10 tackle busts.
Match Officials: Referees – Shayne Hayne & Brett Suttor; Sideline Officials – Paul Holland & Dan Eastwood; Video Referee – Phil Cooley.
The Way We See It: Manly have been struggling under the weight of injuries and suspensions and it will take a season-best effort to get over the top of their rivals here. How much they lift against former coach Des Hasler will be a huge factor – but the Bulldogs players are sure to be pumped as well. A tough game to predict but on exposed form we’ll side with the ‘under-the-radar’ Bulldogs by seven points.
ANZ Stadium
Friday 7.35pm
http://www.nrl.com/bulldogs-v-sea-eagles-preview/tabid/10874/newsid/67057/default.aspx?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
The battle lines for this intriguing Anzac Round clash were drawn a fortnight after last year’s grand final when Des Hasler climbed out of the Manly trench and entered the Bulldogs’ bunker.
No question it’s the game all NRL fans have been waiting for: the confrontation between a ‘turncoat’ general and his former troops. It’s team five versus team eight, with Hasler eyeing a spot in the top four and new Manly coach Geoff Toovey desperate to inflict a defeat on his former mentor (and, as press accounts would have it, still friend) that would give the premiers a buffer inside the top eight.
There’s much at stake, with both sides certain to lose key players to the looming Origin period.
After opening 2012 with three successive wins Canterbury have struggled over the past month, defeating just the lowly Titans and losing to the Knights, Rabbitohs and Storm. However, they were impressive despite falling 12-6 in Melbourne and it took a standout defensive effort from the premiership favourites to hold the Bulldogs at bay during the final 30 minutes.
Meanwhile the Sea Eagles have been guilty of some complacency and inconsistency in recent weeks. They fell to lowly Parramatta in Round 5, pounded the Panthers 30-nil at Brookvale Oval in Round 6, before inexplicably falling 26-14 to the then cellar-dwelling Titans when they returned to Brookvale just five days later.
To make matters worse Tony Williams still has three matches to serve on the sidelines and they enter this game without highly touted prop Darcy Lussick following his one-match ban for a dangerous throw on David Mead.
But in a huge boost, the trio of players who’ve been linked to Hasler at the ’Dogs – Kieran Foran and Stewart brothers Glenn and Brett – are back on deck for this blockbuster.
Brett Stewart replaces Jorge Taufua at the back, with Foran replacing older brother Liam in the No.6, and Vic Mauro makes way for Glenn Stewart. The three displaced players revert to the bench, which numbers six at this stage.
Meanwhile Des Hasler has made two changes: David Stagg will start at lock for Greg Eastwood, with Martin Taupau added to the Bulldogs’ interchange.
Watch Out Bulldogs: Expect Anthony Watmough to fire up, given Des Hasler was the man largely credited with bringing out the best in him as a footballer. And there’s no better occasion: ‘Choc’ will overtake Bob Fulton in the pecking order for appearances in the maroon and white (212). Look for more involvement than his current average 14 runs, two tackle busts and offload a game.
Dean Halatau’s confidence seems to dip every time he faces Manly. The back-rower has played the seasiders 10 times for a return of just two victories and his least impressive game-day stats against any opponent – only seven runs for 58 metres. You can bet Watmough and co will be targeting him with some hard defence early.
Expect Daly Cherry-Evans (seven try assists) to have a huge say in getting fullback Brett Stewart into the opposition in-goal, either from a grubber or a deft inside ball near the Bulldogs’ goalposts.
Danger Sign: Any time the Sea Eagles get inside the Bulldogs’ 10-metre zone it will spell danger – the ’Dogs have conceded 12 of their 18 tries from close range, while the Sea Eagles have scored eight tries from last-ditch passes, the second most by any team.
Watch Out Sea Eagles: The Bulldogs’ runners will need to be contained. Canterbury have scored 14 tries through line-breaks, the most in the comp. That’s bad news for Manly, who have conceded a high seven tries from line-breaks and have also struggled to harness opposition busts, conceding 4.3 line-breaks a game.
Under Des Hasler the Sea Eagles registered just the third-fewest missed tackles in 2011 (30.9) but are now missing the third most (34). Given that statistic you can bet the Bulldogs will fancy their chances of creating opportunities. They boast the two leading tackle-busters in the comp in Josh Morris (41) and Ben Barba (40) and rank third as a team with 36 each game. Also, left centre ‘J-Moz’ ranks third in his position for line-breaks (six) – he’ll test out opposite Jamie Lyon, who’s missed 16 tackles to date (fourth most by a centre). Origin-bound Morris keeps finding the try line, too (five scored).
Manly need to keep a sharp eye on ball-playing prop Sam Kasiano – he leads his position for line-break assists (three).
Danger Sign: Some teams have offloading specialists but the Bulldogs, who rank third in the category with 13.6 every week, have a host of players who can spark second-phase play. In fact they have eight players who make at least one offload a game, with their leading exponents Barba (11), Frank Pritchard (10), Sam Kasiano (10) and Johnathan Wright (10). Back to his best form, Pritchard’s offloads are particularly dangerous – he’s totalled three try assists.
Ben Barba v Brett Stewart: The ANZ Stadium could catch alight if these explosive runners deliver on the night. Barba has scored three tries, made six line-breaks and is averaging 127 metres of territory; but it’s his ability to promote multiple-phase play that’s hurting opponents – he has 11 offloads so far, the second most by a fullback.
Meanwhile it’s only a matter of time before Brett Stewart gets back to his best try-scoring form. ‘Snake’ was Manly’s leading tryscorer in each of the five full seasons he’s played since 2005 – including a massive 22 in 2008. But through five games in 2012 he’s crossed just twice.
This pair’s desperate defence is sure to be a feature too – Barba leads the NRL for try saves (10) with Stewart close behind (nine).
Where It Will Be Won: Whichever side finishes the game with the biggest differential in territory will win – and to date that means the Sea Eagles are decidedly behind the eight ball even before kick-off. Surprisingly the premiers are conceding more metres than they gain each week, returning a -125 metres differential. Meanwhile the Bulldogs, who were the worst in the league last year with a -158 points differential, now finish games with +40 metres difference.
One of the biggest setbacks for the Sea Eagles so far has been their poor kicking accuracy – Daly Cherry-Evans, Kieran Foran and Jamie Lyon have the worst rate of kicking to open space, doing so just 46 per cent of the time. (They need to be avoid charge-downs too – Michael Ennis has notched a league-high two already.)
The History: Played 113; Sea Eagles 60, Bulldogs 48, drawn 5. The Sea Eagles have won five of the past eight clashes between the sides, including both meetings last year. Also, the visitors hold a 4-3 advantage at ANZ Stadium and were rousing 38-4 winners in Round 13 last season.
The Last Time They Met: The Sea Eagles beat the Bulldogs 27-16 at Brookvale Oval in Round 24 last year – but they had to do it the hard way, overcoming a 10-7 halftime deficit.
David Williams opened the scoring in the 14th minute off a neat flick pass from Jamie Lyon before Josh Morris hit back midway through the half, pouncing on a Joel Romelo grubber from close range. Leading 6-4, Daly Cherry-Evans looked to close out the scoring with a field-goal in the 39th minute – but with the clock winding down to the halftime siren Johnathan Wright intercepted a long Glenn Stewart pass and raced 50 metres to score.
It was a more-focused Sea Eagles side in the second stanza. Back-to-back tries to Glenn Stewart (cleaning up a Cherry-Evans cross-field bomb) and Jamie Lyon (off a Cherry-Evans offload) saw them lead 19-10 after 54 minutes – but the Bulldogs hit back immediately through a scrappy try to Ben Barba regathering his own grubber kick that bounced off a host of players before falling sweetly into his hands.
However, the Bulldogs’ challenge ended in the 65th minute when they allowed dummy-half runner Steve Matai to scoot 45 metres to score.
Opposing centres Steve Matai and Jamal Idris were the sounding boards for their teams, each man creating havoc with 10 tackle busts.
Match Officials: Referees – Shayne Hayne & Brett Suttor; Sideline Officials – Paul Holland & Dan Eastwood; Video Referee – Phil Cooley.
The Way We See It: Manly have been struggling under the weight of injuries and suspensions and it will take a season-best effort to get over the top of their rivals here. How much they lift against former coach Des Hasler will be a huge factor – but the Bulldogs players are sure to be pumped as well. A tough game to predict but on exposed form we’ll side with the ‘under-the-radar’ Bulldogs by seven points.
| Team | P | W | L | PD | Pts |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
|
5 | 4 | 1 | 23 | 10 |
|
5 | 4 | 1 | 14 | 10 |
|
6 | 4 | 2 | 48 | 8 |
|
6 | 4 | 2 | 28 | 8 |
|
5 | 3 | 2 | 25 | 8 |
|
5 | 3 | 2 | 14 | 8 |
|
6 | 3 | 2 | 38 | 7 |
|
6 | 3 | 2 | 21 | 7 |
|
6 | 3 | 3 | 37 | 6 |
|
6 | 3 | 3 | 16 | 6 |
|
6 | 3 | 3 | -13 | 6 |
|
5 | 2 | 3 | -15 | 6 |
|
6 | 3 | 3 | -36 | 6 |
|
6 | 2 | 4 | -5 | 4 |
|
6 | 2 | 4 | -7 | 4 |
|
5 | 0 | 5 | -86 | 2 |
|
6 | 1 | 5 | -102 | 2 |
